LinuxQuestions.org
Welcome to the most active Linux Forum on the web.
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General
User Name
Password
General This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 09-17-2012, 02:16 PM   #1
TobiSGD
Moderator
 
Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Distribution: Whatever fits the task best
Posts: 17,148
Blog Entries: 2

Rep: Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886
New victim in Apple's run to sue everyone: Polish grocery store


At first I thought this was a joke: http://www.unixmen.com/apple-sues-poland-grocery-store/
 
Old 09-17-2012, 03:15 PM   #2
273
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2011
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian Sid AMD64, Raspbian Wheezy, various VMs
Posts: 7,680

Rep: Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373
I know they don't care but this is an example of why I will never knowingly give Apple any money.
I have, in the past, toyed with the idea of one of their desktops as they have some advantages over Windows and Linux machines but I refuse to give my money to companies who behave like playground bullies.
 
Old 09-17-2012, 03:28 PM   #3
/dev/random
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2012
Location: Ontario, Canada
Distribution: Slackware 14.2, LFS-current, NetBSD 6.1.3, OpenIndiana
Posts: 319

Rep: Reputation: 112Reputation: 112
I don't understand why they don't sue other companies like Apple Auto Glass then, they seem to use the apple as their logo as well.
 
Old 09-17-2012, 04:00 PM   #4
TobiSGD
Moderator
 
Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Distribution: Whatever fits the task best
Posts: 17,148

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 2

Rep: Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886
From what I can see Apple has already sued numerous companies about things like that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I...#A.pl.27s_logo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I...reeNYC.27_logo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I...and_Technology (really, they sued a school)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I...s_Limited_logo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I...wer-case_i_use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I...22App_Store.22

Until now I just wasn't an Apple fan because of their overpriced products and their unwillingness to support their products on Linux, but when you look at that Wikipedia page about all the legal actions Apple was involved in (and how awkward some of them are/were) I have another reason to not like Apple.
 
Old 09-17-2012, 05:03 PM   #5
clifford227
Member
 
Registered: Dec 2009
Distribution: Slackware 14
Posts: 282

Rep: Reputation: 64
I cant stand Apple.

Generally, I cant stand any company, or any persons, that stand outside a store over night waiting for a new product.

People in sleeping bags on the pavement, then posing for the camera with the product. Honestly, I.. I just..

/rant over

(Apple suck).
 
Old 09-17-2012, 05:34 PM   #6
linux_BSD
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2012
Posts: 47

Rep: Reputation: 4
It's all about greed with these big companies. They look for any possible means to make money from their products to patent trolling to suing. I bet they would even sue a little kid selling apple juice because the kid has an apple logo on their stand.
 
Old 09-17-2012, 05:39 PM   #7
sycamorex
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: London
Distribution: Slackware64-current
Posts: 5,836
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 1251Reputation: 1251Reputation: 1251Reputation: 1251Reputation: 1251Reputation: 1251Reputation: 1251Reputation: 1251Reputation: 1251
I'd be careful using the A-word here. Jeremy may get sued by the A-company. After all, it's obvious that we use the A-word here to lure unsuspecting visitors to LQ.
 
Old 09-17-2012, 06:34 PM   #8
TobiSGD
Moderator
 
Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Distribution: Whatever fits the task best
Posts: 17,148

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 2

Rep: Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886
Well, I am glad that at least the thing about having a lower case i in a name was not successful, so I can keep my username.
Wait, I am sharing 3 letters with iPod, may be I should change it nonetheless before being sued over that.
 
Old 09-17-2012, 08:46 PM   #9
Hungry ghost
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,222

Rep: Reputation: 667Reputation: 667Reputation: 667Reputation: 667Reputation: 667Reputation: 667
That's absurd. Not to mention that the .pl domain is reserved for Polish websites; how can they sue a Polish grocery store for using a Polish domain name? Next they will sue apple trees for producing apples.
 
Old 09-17-2012, 09:16 PM   #10
frankbell
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Virginia, USA
Distribution: Slackware, Ubuntu MATE, Mageia, and whatever VMs I happen to be playing with
Posts: 19,321
Blog Entries: 28

Rep: Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141
Apple is playing desperate, frantic defense.

They know that Android is catching them on phones and will catch them on tablets. There was an interesting discussion on of this on SMLR this week.

They know that, once the cachet of their iGadgets fades before Android, they will no longer be able to charge twice as much for half as good for their iJunk.

Last edited by frankbell; 09-17-2012 at 09:44 PM. Reason: missplet wrod
 
Old 09-18-2012, 05:49 AM   #11
salasi
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Directly above centre of the earth, UK
Distribution: SuSE, plus some hopping
Posts: 4,070

Rep: Reputation: 897Reputation: 897Reputation: 897Reputation: 897Reputation: 897Reputation: 897Reputation: 897
Yeah, that's funny, but not really a big surprise.

You do remember that Apple (the manufacturer of nice, but wildly overpriced tech baubles) and Apple (the record company set up by four lovable moptops, and, in no way a copier of any tech trinket rip-off merchants) did have a legal run in, years and years ago. One of the outcomes was that the then computer company Apple was not allowed to get into the music purveying business. Guess what they did once their iPod was what they wanted to sell. Yeah, that's right, just had a case of corporate amnesia about what they signed up to.

(On a vaguely related similar theme to the original post, a certain fast food company called McDonalds went to court against a Scotsman called McDonald who had a fish-and-chip shop (Eee-iii-ee-ii-ooo, more or less). Essentially, the judge told them to grow up. In an ideal world, that's what judges are for.)

They really are taking a big chance with their reputation
  • they are portraying themselves as 'corporate bad guys'; I'd guess that isn't who their target market wants to be buying from, or worshipping. You know, what with their 'be a rebel/1984 adverts'
  • and also as hypocrites - never nice
  • and in doing the anti-innovation thing, they are also less worship-able
  • and, for my money, the kicker is that non-techies have already been misreading the '...vs Samsung' case as meaning that the court has decided that the Samsung tablet is identical to the Apple device (not something the court was actually asked about, nor something on which they were competent to decide, but...), and so the Apple one can't be worth any more than the Samsung (I'll point out that this was predictable, in the sense that I predicted it, but I don't expect any kudos for that, given that I didn't put it on line)

What I don't know is if this is just the new management trying to follow the teachings of St Steve (and doing it less well) or whether they are trying to kick out in a new, more hard-line, hard-nosed, direction of their own.

Steve had decided he was going to '...kill...' Android, and that didn't happen, and, right now, it looks more likely that his organisation will destroy itself trying to make this last wish come true.

We live in interesting times.
 
Old 09-18-2012, 06:53 AM   #12
TobiSGD
Moderator
 
Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Distribution: Whatever fits the task best
Posts: 17,148

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 2

Rep: Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886Reputation: 4886
Steve Jobs was a hypocrite himself, in the purest form.
Steve Jobs, 1994, http://youtu.be/CW0DUg63lqU
Quote:
“Picasso had a saying - 'good artists copy, great artists steal' - and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.”
Steve Jobs, 2010, http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/20/...stroy-android/
Quote:
"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong," Jobs said. "I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."
That makes pretty clear that Apple is going down the Microsoft route.
 
Old 09-18-2012, 07:30 AM   #13
H_TeXMeX_H
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: $RANDOM
Distribution: slackware64
Posts: 12,928
Blog Entries: 2

Rep: Reputation: 1301Reputation: 1301Reputation: 1301Reputation: 1301Reputation: 1301Reputation: 1301Reputation: 1301Reputation: 1301Reputation: 1301Reputation: 1301
Yes, there is a world of difference between the two Steves:
http://thenextweb.com/apps/2012/09/1...dont-agree-it/

I will say no more about Steve Jobs, I have already said enough about him in the past, and at the wrong time.

**** Apple !
 
Old 09-18-2012, 07:54 AM   #14
brianL
LQ 5k Club
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Slackware64 15; SlackwareARM-current (aarch64); Debian 12
Posts: 8,298
Blog Entries: 61

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
This thread reminds me of something similar involving Microsoft I read about years ago:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_vs._MikeRoweSoft
 
Old 09-18-2012, 08:40 PM   #15
frankbell
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Virginia, USA
Distribution: Slackware, Ubuntu MATE, Mageia, and whatever VMs I happen to be playing with
Posts: 19,321
Blog Entries: 28

Rep: Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141Reputation: 6141
Since someone brought up Microsoft, http://www.dwheeler.com/innovation/microsoft.html
 
  


Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LXer: Apple needs a better App Store refund method LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 12-18-2011 06:33 PM
Piracy concerns over Apple's new Mac download store Jeebizz Linux - News 0 01-07-2011 08:34 AM
Will Apple II software run on an Apple IIe? ESC201 General 2 07-02-2010 08:50 PM
LXer: GPL Enforcement in Apple's App Store LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 05-28-2010 01:30 PM
Could Novell Sue Apple? LinuxNoob75 General 6 11-08-2007 10:39 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:28 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration