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lectraplayer 11-16-2003 04:49 PM

New Old Playstation
 
I bought an old Playstation 1 and am trying to restore it to a playable state. The case looks fine. When I put a Playstation game (or any CD) in it, it will spin the disk (when it thinks the cover's closed anyway) and then boot to its CMOS where I can (supposedly) play CD's and manage memory cards. I have the controller and an output dongle, as well as one game. It won't boot to the game. Does a Playstation need a memory card? ...or is it just not reading the CD correctly, though it realized it has a disk? It won't even play a perfectly unscratched audio CD!

Tarts 11-16-2003 05:12 PM

Re: New Old Playstation
 
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Originally posted by lectraplayer
I bought an old Playstation 1 and am trying to restore it to a playable state. The case looks fine. When I put a Playstation game (or any CD) in it, it will spin the disk (when it thinks the cover's closed anyway) and then boot to its CMOS where I can (supposedly) play CD's and manage memory cards. I have the controller and an output dongle, as well as one game. It won't boot to the game. Does a Playstation need a memory card? ...or is it just not reading the CD correctly, though it realized it has a disk? It won't even play a perfectly unscratched audio CD!
It should run without a memory card.

XavierP 11-16-2003 05:13 PM

Maybe your laser is borked up. If you just put in a memory card, you should get to a screen where you can delete files from the card - do you see this? (Just in case you don't have a memory card, can you borrow one?)

lectraplayer 11-16-2003 07:34 PM

I see the little red dot on the lens (the lazer) when I have no disk in, (and it spins it twice looking, but none is found in this case), if I have the disk in, it finds it and spins it awhile (confirming the lazer is good). Whatever happens, it goes to that CMOS program (what Xavier-P's calling "that screeen where you can delete files from the memory card", though it also has a CD player function.) Earlier, I found something pinning the lens down preventing it from finding the disk, so I saw what it would do if there was a disk there but it couldn't find it--"touch" the disk motor twice then give up. Instead, it touches it once, holds it down for about ten seconds to spin it at about 400RPMs (while it shows the white screen with the Sony orange diamond logo, then the memory card management system), then it stops the disk. (I was told the PSX is a double speed CD-Rom.) ...now after it hits the S/P converter to feed the disk data to the processor, I may have a cold line there. That's the only thing I can think of.

Travis86 11-16-2003 07:49 PM

Well, before you tear your PS1 apart, you could try leaning the laser's lens. You're supposed to do it with a q-tip dipped in rubbing alcohol.

Most likely not the solution to your problem, but there's a chance that it is.

lectraplayer 11-16-2003 08:05 PM

If there's any question of what I'm seeing, let me know and we'll figure a way for me to get a 6.2MB MPEG movie to you. I just now recorded it using my TV card (though I have yet to get sound working under Windows, the only place I have support for this card right now, so this movie probably is silent.

matthewhardwick 11-17-2003 12:57 PM

sounds like a dead laser to me

my dad used to fix playstations for a liveing and this was a common problem.

so i think that the laser is ded

lectraplayer 11-21-2003 09:51 PM

The lazer's good. I'm seeing the little red dot on the lens when I mash the "closed" button and don't have a disk in. When I put the disk in, it sees it but doesn't load the game. This is with two diferent purple Playstation disks (one bought new, both work under emu). I'm trying to move the spindle height with no such luck and two broken spindles.

Travis86 11-21-2003 11:16 PM

It sounds more and more like just a dirty laser.

matthewhardwick 11-22-2003 07:47 AM

even though you see the little red dot on the laser doesnt mean that it is working. If the laser is out of sink then, it wont work at all. The problem is that the discs arent being recognised which means that the laser cant read the master sector of the disk, which means that the laser isnt reading the right place on the disc, and it needs replaceing.

lectraplayer 11-23-2003 05:44 PM

It isn't a dirty lazer--I cleaned it. ...now something may be out of allignment. It is seeing the presence of the disk but apparantly isn't getting a data stream going suitable for running a game or reading an audio CD.

8nasmith 11-24-2003 04:03 AM

this is a very good solotion, throw it and find/ buy another thats not always an option for every one though

8nasmith 11-24-2003 04:03 AM

have you got any other consoles e.g. xbox (MICROSOFT) PS2, Gamecube

lectraplayer 12-01-2003 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by 8nasmith
this is a very good solotion, throw it and find/ buy another thats not always an option for every one though
What's the fun in that? I got this one from the thrift store. I do most of my Playstaton gaming under ePSXe anyway.:p ...as far as having a new console, I don't have one (too poor) but will most likely get a Gamecube over any of the others (like Metroid Prime, and Xbox sucks, Microsoft). Anywhere I can get a schematic for a Playstation 1?

8nasmith 12-04-2003 08:20 AM

oh ok then sorry didnt realise that, if the motors spinning and the lazers working is must be a serious fault then, otherwise matthewallen is right about the lazzer being out of sinc/alligenment

matthewhardwick 12-05-2003 07:29 AM

there used to be some diagrams and photos, all with anotations, but sony got a bit funny about them bieng freely available on the web. Its a case of knowing the address or the people , because its unlikely thats a site on a search engine will be up for more than a little while because sony will find and kick up a stink.

Ill ask my father, find out if he knows any addresses or has any diagrams, as he used to chip (for forgien and... err, *cough cough*copied*splutter cough cough* games) and also fix playstations and later psones as part of his liveing.

burnpile 12-05-2003 08:03 AM

http://www.geocities.com/psxrepair/
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/47455

lectraplayer 12-05-2003 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by matthewallen


Ill ask my father, find out if he knows any addresses or has any diagrams, as he used to chip (for forgien and... err, *cough cough*copied*splutter cough cough* games) and also fix playstations and later psones as part of his liveing.

Oooo!:tisk: :p I want to get my playstation working, not copy games! This is completely legal! I appreciate the help though.:)

8nasmith 12-09-2003 08:52 AM

it was SONY who orginally supplied the chips for the play station in my belive then they stoped this after there profits drops

i may be wrong though

lectraplayer 12-09-2003 10:37 PM

...interesting. ...just watch out for the Feds. :p

8nasmith 12-10-2003 12:13 PM

yes!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING OTHER PEOPLE POSTING, by the way has he/she got your ps to work yet

dick_onion53 02-10-2005 04:02 AM

I may be a little late but i have some spare ps parts if you need em.

lectraplayer 02-10-2005 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by dick_onion53
I may be a little late but i have some spare ps parts if you need em.
Got any working CD carriages? I seem to just be butchering all those I'm going into for some unknown reason. :cry: My "base unit" works, but doesn't read the "blue Playstation disks". How much is it?

dick_onion53 02-11-2005 04:15 AM

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Got any working CD carriages?
I have the entire ps except for the bottom part of the case *never use carb cleaner to clear excess paint* whatever you want i'll give to you for whatever it costs to ship (I do take donations though;) if you wanna do so you can pay the shipping via paypal.....

dick_onion53 02-11-2005 04:20 AM

I should also add that I'm not positive if the stuff works anymore. It work last time i tried but that was months ago BEFORE we moved. But like i said, i was playing grand toruismo on it months ago....

lectraplayer 02-11-2005 08:29 PM

If it worked then, it probably works now. Lemme see if I still have the PS though (I had two, and I think I tossed one, if not both). If I still accidentally have 'em both, I'll trade you the bottom of a PS for a CD carriage. :)

dick_onion53 02-12-2005 03:24 AM

Nah, I have my ps2 to play ps games. You can have whatever you want for whatever it costs to ship. Just tell me what you want, PayPal me, then I'll ship er off.


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