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Old 02-21-2009, 11:13 AM   #1
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New Internet Safety Act, what is required for us to save?


New Internet Safety Act, what is required for us to save for two years?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/02/20/i...ill/index.html

I know it says, for employers to save DHCP records for IPs assigned on your private network, how do you even do that if you have router, like a netgear or linksys?

It seems what these people are asking for could be hundreds of terabytes of data, is that correct?
 
Old 02-21-2009, 02:32 PM   #2
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lol, that bill is laughable. They expect me to keep a log of myself, sure I will, and I promise I won't edit it or lose it, ya kno.
 
Old 02-21-2009, 02:39 PM   #3
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BIG BROTHER IS (or would like to be) WATCHING YOU!
 
Old 02-21-2009, 03:27 PM   #4
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Nah, it's more like Big Brother will now make you do the watching and report back to him. Do not disappoint Big Brother ... you know what happens if you do that ... muhahahah !
 
Old 02-21-2009, 03:57 PM   #5
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A nice long holiday in Guantanamo Bay. Plenty of Sun, fun, and torture.
 
Old 02-21-2009, 06:42 PM   #6
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Another episode of republican conservative right wing bullshit !

to be honest , I do like such statements because they provocate everybody
to 'violate' their pathetic prudish laws.

if you want to ease your headache in the future ,

JUST setup your psychological firewall to drop all packets from the right wing.
 
Old 02-21-2009, 10:17 PM   #7
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This is the most messed up thing that I have ever heard. Again, the republicans are using some over bloated occurrence like child porn to get them the right to over look peoples computer habbits. Now hears my question, they even know what half this stuff is. I mean really, would they know what nmap was if I went up to them and asked them...because that is what they are looking for. People who use security measures like that to do things they call destructive.

Now, can we use the Freedom of information act to be able and get the dhcp logs of all us gov't routers and switches?

Anyone know how to turn the volume on the Telescreen down?

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Old 02-21-2009, 11:22 PM   #8
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So how exactly does a dhcp log protect from child porn?
 
Old 02-22-2009, 03:14 AM   #9
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So how exactly does a dhcp log protect from child porn?
It means they're forcing you to trade a bit of liberty for security ... bit by bit ... just like with terrorism. Bit by bit, Big Brother will own you, and own the world, all in the name of security.
 
Old 02-22-2009, 05:08 AM   #10
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Yes, whittle away your liberty bit by bit. Much more likely to succeed than an all-at-once change to dictatorship.
 
Old 02-22-2009, 07:22 AM   #11
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Break out the popcorn, this should be entertaining. Considering that the vast, overwhelming majority of Americans who own a wifi router can't even figure out how to turn on the most basic encryption, the Right Honorable Moron from Texas expects them to keep logs?

Pfft. I bet Cornyn doesn't even use a computer.
 
Old 02-22-2009, 07:51 AM   #12
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It means they're forcing you to trade a bit of liberty for security ... bit by bit ... just like with terrorism. Bit by bit, Big Brother will own you, and own the world, all in the name of security.
And "family values." And the divine judgment and beautiful retribution of the Lord our God will be delivered via my wifi logs. roflmao
 
Old 02-22-2009, 09:12 AM   #13
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I dont think it's practical or feasible to implement this bill ... Seriously !!!

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Old 02-22-2009, 03:33 PM   #14
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priyaunni: unfortunetly, it doesn't matter what we want or don't want, it only matters what the mostly computer illiterate people in congress think, and for most of them, its their assistants that actually look at the bill. So basically, if you live in the us, your screwed. My router will never leave my home even if they ask
 
Old 02-26-2009, 11:20 AM   #15
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priyaunni: unfortunetly, it doesn't matter what we want or don't want, it only matters what the mostly computer illiterate people in congress think, and for most of them, its their assistants that actually look at the bill. So basically, if you live in the us, your screwed. My router will never leave my home even if they ask

But , there is a weapon to destroy those schmucks' agenda .

It's called technical electronic superiority !

Yes , even despite the NSA's effort to stick their nose into everything
by hammering at every security layer for possible weaknesses .

'We' theoretically can beat those state security dogs and of course all those illiterate 'lawmakers' , by knowing the in and outs of encryption and spreading public awareness of it.

Look at tor for example , although that it's not an out of the box solution for total protection , it basically borders on it in many regards, and it could become virtually unbreakable if a couple of minor modification were considered .

You have to keep in mind , that the same computer knowledge and tools that are available to the NSA , are also avialable to everybosy else. it's all public.

I consider it a travesty that the US goverment imposes so called 'export restrictions' on encryption aware software , as if the algorithms and sources behind it wasn't already all over the net. LOL

My statement is that , having 1000 child pornography rings around is a trivial minor nastiness as compared to the Great Evil of a digital dictatorship !

 
  


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