Music industry is at it again...
They are trying to make it illegal to upload files to file sharing network. Spread the word please and talk to your congress person.
http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,59654,00.html |
i would just like to take this opportunty to tell everyone to support thier local univeristy radio station...if it doesn't suck. and if yours sucks, support mine.
www.wmucradio.com |
It's no secret that the RIAA wants to stop all this music piracy to "protect the musicians who create the music". Which is just a bunch of horse-manure, they don't give a crap about the musicians. They only care for their money grubbing selves.
And my whole family feels the same way. If I could sk8guitar, I would support the local University Radio Station... If I knew if my university has one. |
That's bull ish, Im a muscian (pop/R&B) and, it actually
helps when some of your mp3's get spread around. people know the name, then come to your conerts, or want more give like 3 mp3s to dl and then have the rest on your cd . people will want more. The industry are money hungry F''ers That's why Indie record labels are getting the good artist now. look how many people know adays are on Idie labels who are mainstream artist. |
it says they are targeting p2p networks, do the binary newsgroups fall under that as well?
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You wouldnt expect to work and not get paid, and neither should they. |
it's not stealing, or rape or murder or speeding.
it's closer to trespassing, or peeping tom than stealing. stealing involves a taking of physical property, in a way that deprives the owner of the use of that property. there's no taking that deprives the owner of use, you can only argue that it lowers the value of that original "property". but, there is no "right" to keep anyone from lowering the value of your property. making noise, smells, or blocking light is usually legal, but can easily lower the value of your property. driving a gravel truck isn't illegal, but just think of all the damaged windshields and paint jobs from it. then there is the issue of whether it is property. by law, it isn't. it's just a right of control. that's why it's called copyright, and not chattels or personal property. it's not a real thing. it's an expression. so, it's not property, and it wouldn't be stealing if it was. it would be magic. you could make an infinite number of copies of it without the owner even knowing. i wish i could "steal" $100 dollar bills like that. if i made copies of $100 bills on a color laser printer, you would call it counterfeiting, not stealing. copyright holders have the best of both worlds. they call it stealing, cause that sounds worse than it is, and they have much more serious fines and penalties than stealing would have. fine. call it stealing. but charge me with larceny if you want to call it stealing. $1.70 a song. so if "stole" 50 songs, that's under $100. petty larceny. return of the "property", and small fine. |
One word....
Peerguardian. |
You know something funny? Sometime ago, they've tried to make mp3 format illegal in Denmark. Indeed, it did not work... Just sit back and think about all peoples who owns an mp3 player complainning :).
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Their rights? What about our rights? How many songs a day does the radio shoot over the air waves? How many people have taken an album over to a friends house or for a party? How many people have *gasp* even taped a copy for them or let them tape one? And do we have stormtroopers setting our houses on fire because we have *blank tapes* with music *recorded* on them? And this is our World Party. My friends - my peers - are sharing tunes and my box is bopping. So what? But people freak at the idea of stormtroopers in their houses - yet not at stormtroopers frying computers IN their houses. My computer is just as much my castle as the roof that keeps rain off it.
Here's something I wrote to myself back when I was discovering p2p: And all told, I download a song or two a day on average. Yep. Definitely doing my part to destroy the music industry. Like they don't play about 200 songs a day on a given radio station, all of which I could tape without having to hunt around for them and having my reception cut off in the middle of the song. Dips***s. I sent some Cramps mp3s I'd ripped from CDs I BOUGHT to [a friend] and she went out and BOUGHT their new album. How terrible for the industry suits. I say again: dips***s. How many *new* CDs have I bought since I started downloading mp3s? One. How many did I buy the year before, without downloading? One. Net loss for the suits? 0%. Why so few either way, though? Because the f***ing things cost TWENTY GODD**N DOLLARS A POP, maybe? Third time's the charm: dips***s. A 50 cent disc of shiny plastic selling for 20 bucks. And THEY call ME the thief? And how many have I bought this year? A couple - one of which I decided to get because a friend sent me some mp3s from it. And how many albums do I want to buy? Dozens. And how many can I find in the store? None. I could buy them from Amazon or whatever but I don't like online money transactions. And I could special order them but the record store always manages to screw up the order. And that's the key - I want to buy weird cool stuff and not Madonna and boy bands and whatever crap the industry wants me to buy. I want to buy stuff from *small INDEPENDENT* labels and not the big three labels. And with the net we can find out about the cool stuff and the little labels are on an even footing with the big ones and bands can sell music via their *OWN* websites without the RIAA and the big labels robbing them blind by signing them to a contract which puts them in *debt* for the first ten years of their recording career if it lasts that long. *THAT'S* what this is about - the big labels feel control slipping from their grasp and little labels and grass roots bands making them unnecessary. And to do this they pretend to be "protecting" the artists and sticking up for "intellectual property" and buy off senators to pass these ludicrous fascist bills - to protect their business. Only. Screw 'em. I support *music* and *musicians* by getting their music and spreading the word. Think the Dead were huge because of Arista or whoever? No - it was touring, touring, and bootlegging, bootlegging. Word of mouth and power to the people. *cough* *drinks a lot of water* |
Your just trying to rationalize what you know is wrong. I like music for free too but if I was making it I would want to get paid. Eventually the party will end & the internet will be ruined by laws & taxes & such.
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trivia fact: record sales were higher than normal during time of napster and took a nose dive when napster closed.
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Also with your line if reasoning it should be illegal to even tape/record a copy of the song of the radio since that would be "stealing". Ever had a friend copy a cd to tape for you? They consider that stealing too. As far as the RIAA is concerned you should have to buy multiple copies of a CD if you want to listen to it on more than one device but they can't do that...yet. |
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the whole idea of copyright is completely unnatural.
you have to be taught over and over that it is illegal. something being right or wrong has little to do with whether it is illegal or not. the general public doesn't see anything wrong with downloading music, but they know it's illegal. don't bother telling people they know it's wrong. you may as well tell gay people that they know what they are doing is wrong, and they should just stop. or tell black people that they don't have any business trying to vote, cause they know it's wrong. a lot of times it's the laws that are wrong. |
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