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What's the big deal? If the boy was 16 or 17 years old, then he wouldn't be considered underage in the UK. You can get married at 16 here if your parents agree to it. You Americans have a pretty weird idea of what constitutes child abuse. A 17-year-old is certainly not a child, and most men, both gay and straight, are attracted to young people. Is there any evidence that this was not consensual? Or, for that matter, that Trump knew anything about it?

Furthermore, when you are a billionaire, you already know that people will talk, and that you really can't control what they might say. You're the subject of lawsuits like this more-or-less all the time, by people who hope to get you to pay them money to go away. It's been this way ever since you became [filthy] rich.

When you become a President that, for some reason, "everybody wants to see fail," it gets worse. They want to get your tax-return if only to see that you paid ten times more in taxes last year than any of the rest of them makes. Every skeleton that anyone thinks they can find in your closet will be exhumed. They all dream that you'll be another "Tricky Dick" Nixon who can be persuaded to resign your Office because of a magnetic tape.

What these Washingtonians don't realize, though, is that you do not become a billionaire, let alone in Real Estate, without being both extremely smart and extremely aware of human nature. Right now I see the man carefully feeding "talking points" to the media. They've never encountered a President(!) who was ... shrewd.

Likewise, the Republicans in Congress think – first of all – that "Donald Trump is actually 'a Republican.'" (He's not. He's Donald Trump.) They think – secondly – that whenever they agree upon a bill and present it to him, he'll sign it without even reading it. The thought that he might veto their first version of, say, "an ACA Repeal Bill," is quite inconceivable to them. But, "we shall see.™"

I think most people have a problem with their elected representatives being found with prostitutes. Especially under age ones.
Adults are anyone 18 and above in the UK.

In the U.S.A. I think each state has a different " age of consent "!! I Massachusetts where I grew up that age is 18 for females and 21 for males!! We have Trump for at least 4 years; I just hope he does not blow the world up!!

The funny thing is how is this Trumps problem? Trump can control what other people do about as much as I can control him. People are so hell bent over seeing that he fails that they are to STUPID to realize he is the first President that isn't owned by either party. If people would wake up we might be able to put this country back on track.

Depends for what purpose. You can't vote or get into debt or marry someone your parents disapprove of until you are 18, but you can legally have sex at 16. Clearly then, in the eyes of the law, a 16-year-old is a minor but not a child.

I get the feeling that if he were a Democrat they'd laugh the whole thing off.

I don't approve of this sort of stuff but I understand that folks use prostitutes and there are gay people in the world. It is also not a typical campaigner for the Republican party.


Didn't some famous actor and also a musician get caught like this?

However suggesting a link to this Senator and any other person is not right. My neighbors smoke dope but that shouldn't make me a druggy by association.

I'll agree that we ought to get on with Trump and make the process work. Just going around and fighting is childish and not productive to any cause.

Hi all...

I found this update just a few seconds ago...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ok...-idUSKBN16N287

Regards...

From that article:
Don't you just love all the virtue signaling from celebrities and politicians?

Just another typical say one thing but do the other politician!! Slaps on the wrists are coming!!

Since Nature programs us to be sexual at Puberty (median age 13?) conflict is assured when Laws demand abstinence until many years after that and most people assume Pedophilia includes those past puberty. In strict definition it does not. Pedophilia is expressly about disorders where adults lust after pre-pubescent children. Lusting after post Puberty individuals is normal and widely accepted in some fields, like to sell clothing, makeup, cars, swimsuits etc. What one does to act on or abstain from acting on that lust, does matter a great deal.

Somewhat similarly, while most agree that an active sex life is healthy, many religions (and laws they've influenced) try to confine sex to marriage, frown on extramarital affairs and especially (OMG !!) anything that fits in the contradictory, fanciful definition of Prostitution. No wonder so many societies are angry, aggressive and conflicted.

Additionally this whole "age thing" changes not only by culture but over time. In the US, during and before the 19th century it was utterly common for 50+ year old men to marry 13 year olds because so many women died in childbirth. We shouldn't forget that as late as the 1950s while causing a stir, it was still legal for Jerry Lee Lewis to marry his 13 year old cousin. There is a good book about the earlier acceptance of widely separated ages by "the oldest surviving Civil War widow" who also mentions how she and "the girls" in the Nursing Home take bets on new arrivals as to how long they will last. Uptight, managerial types get the lowest estimates. Live and let live types who mind their own business last the longest. See? Puritanism kills!

The physical age of puberty isn't the only thing that matters. Improved nutrition has greatly reduced the age of puberty, leading to a serious discrepancy between physical and emotional maturation. The law mandates that you should be at least 16 before you start having sex, because younger people are not emotionally ready for the experience and all its complications. And they don't yet have enough judgement to recognise this. Therefore they need protection, especially from older people who might take advantage of them.

In this case, the young man was old enough to know what he was doing (though it's a great pity that he could find nothing better to do with his life than to become a whore). The reason there is a huge scandal is that the senator was a great advocate of "family values". It's not virtue-signalling to point out the discrepancy here. On the contrary, it was this politician who was signalling his virtue by going on and on about family values in order to win the approval of right-wing Christian republicans, and now he's literally been caught with his pants down!

You can also end up in court here and get dismissed from your job if you're in a position of trust and found to be having sex with someone aged 16 or 17.

In law a minor is an under 18 - a child. If you are under 18 and commit and offense, you will be tried for that offense as a child.
There is no evidence to suggest this is the case. Though early onset of puberty has been linked to poor nutrition, and shorter life expectancy.
The law in this case, is not a moral compass, it's simply a legislative mechanism, it has been shown to have no real impact on teenage pregnancy rates, etc. It's also a lot more complex than you seem to realise. A 15 year old and 14 year old having sex don't face prosecution or the elder of the two conviction on a statutory rape charge. Closeness of age is a factor in many countries' law.
In the country which you reside, he is not old enough to "know what he was doing", nor in many states in the US is he even old enough to consent. Here in the UK, but less so in Scotland, "parental responsibility" laws would still be a factor.

(And you don't know the circumstances which led him into that kind of 'work'.)

As a progressive society, we have raised the smoking age to the same as the drinking age (18) and have taken greater steps towards protect young people from abuse and exploitation of all kinds. The next step for Scotland should be to raise the age of parental responsibility to 18 in keeping with the rest of the UK. Age of consent laws are, as I said, more complex.

They would still send him off to die in a pointless conflict at that age though!!