Mobo damage ...

phoeniXflame · 08-18-2003, 09:10 AM

just recieved a new motherboard for a budget build I'm doing for someone this morning, only to find that it was packed VERY badly, and as a result seems to have suffered this damage ...

http://d0ug3h.woaf.net/misc/funked_mobo.jpg

now, would that be the reason why it only seems to power on (fans and nothing else, no display output or anything) ?? I only ask because I'm worried its NOT the motherboard and something else like the CPU ? (celeron 2ghz) so I'm not sure what to send back (the mobo is going back for sure) any ideas ?

mcleodnine · 08-18-2003, 10:09 AM

I'd be hesitant to call that 'damaged' as it doesn't really appear to have affected anything other than cosmetics.

Is there an onboard speaker or can you plug a speaker into the proper header? You'll need this and the reference manual in order to hear the diagnostic beep codes.

You will also want to ensure you're using the proper settings for the CPU in use as well. If this is software (BIOS) controlled then you'll be wanting some video output, and if it's jumpers it's back to the mobo manual.

phoeniXflame · 08-18-2003, 10:21 AM

jumpers are all set correctly and yes there is a speaker plugged in but I get no output

the damage just looks VERY close to those chips in the corner, and the large component in the picture even has a large chip on the corner indicating its been dropped or something ? the packaging really was VERY poor

mcleodnine · 08-18-2003, 10:24 AM

oh.

That's not a good start.

What happens if you pull all the RAM out and start it up? Any beeps at all? Most mobos will give eternal beepage in that event.

phoeniXflame · 08-18-2003, 10:46 AM

nah nowt, tried with DDR from this machine which I know to be 100% ok

mcleodnine · 08-18-2003, 10:53 AM

Right, but the point of the previously mentioned experiment was to see if you would get any diag beeps when a known error has occurred (in this case no RAM).

phoeniXflame · 08-18-2003, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by phoeniXflame
nah nowt ...

mcleodnine · 08-18-2003, 11:01 AM

Damn. I can't seem to find my English -> English dictionary. What is "nah nowt"?

flapjackboy · 08-18-2003, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mcleodnine
Damn. I can't seem to find my English -> English dictionary. What is "nah nowt"?

I can answer that one for you, it's colloquial northern UK english for "I'm afraid nothing happened when I tried your suggested tactic"

mcleodnine · 08-18-2003, 11:32 AM

Ah. In that case I would begin to suspect that either the speaker is plugged into the wron header or the mobo is 'arsed' (found the dictionary but am unclear on the use of this noun as a verb in the past tense)

flapjackboy · 08-18-2003, 11:39 AM

No, no... 'Arsed' is a colloquialism for 'bothered' for example:

"I can't be arsed to do it"

The correct word you seek is "buggered"

rshaw · 08-18-2003, 11:47 AM

looks like it been tweaked near the mounting hole, mobo's are a mutli-layer sandwich, so you probably have multiple broken circuit paths. it's hosed.

phoeniXflame · 08-18-2003, 01:08 PM

lol sorry, I was in my narrow minded 'everyone is from the uk and can understand my bizarre english' mode I think

so you think that damage could be substantial enough to cause the problems I'm having ?

rshaw · 08-18-2003, 01:35 PM

yes, send it back and tell them to put some bubble wrap around the replacement.