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Old 11-11-2009, 11:18 PM   #1
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Microsoft patents sudo


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have you all read this?
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?s...23390#comments

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Old 11-11-2009, 11:31 PM   #2
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I don't even have original comments for the ridiculousness of that (but like some other commenter wrote, "MS can 'su' me all they like..")-- instead, just picture me here laughing hysterically!

MS - More money than brainS
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:41 AM   #3
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Yet more proof that MS is trying to take over the world...
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:31 AM   #4
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We don't talk about shady practices in Linux-General - Microsoft have to go to big General so they can't steal our ideas.
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:05 AM   #5
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As I said in other thread, they're going to patent Linux and Mac and BSD and all the other OSs and all the other software. And then, the evil empire will have accomplished its goal.
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:14 AM   #6
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Quoting the article that OP linked,

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In any case, this proves the patent system in the US is completely
broken and in urgent need of an overhaul.
I just wouldn't say "in the US", because it's no better in other countries, at least those I'm familiar with. The word "ridiculous" is too soft here.

Maybe they'll next patent the user account of highest privileges, i.e. root account.
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:16 AM   #7
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Meh...

I'd like to see MS enforce that patent seeing as the "prior art" has already been around and in use for so long.
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:17 AM   #8
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Now I know what you get when you have 100 monkeys typing at 100 typewriters.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:26 PM   #9
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in all fairness, i think this patent is for a gui implementation of privilege escalation.

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Old 11-12-2009, 03:47 PM   #10
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Hmm.. Perhaps if I patent BSOD I can sue MS for millions? Unless they have actually patent it all ready. But that's a joke in it self, so.. :P
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:53 PM   #11
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That's absurd!!! For fax ache, somebody stop them before it's too late.
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:06 PM   #12
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in all fairness, i think is patent for a gui implimentation of privlidge escalation.
Fairness?
So don't gksudo, gksu and kdesu fall into that category?
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:42 PM   #13
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Fairness?
So don't gksudo, gksu and kdesu fall into that category?
From what little I read before I got bored, it sounds like this patent is for the method that Vista uses when you try and run something from a non-admin account that requires admin privs, i.e. you run it and when it discovers that it needs admin privs it automatically pops up a dialog listing the admin accounts and prompts you to authenticate as one of them in order to continue.

In contrast, both su and sudu (and their gui counterparts) are initiated by the user in order to swap to another userid prior to running a specified command.

That aside, it's a fairly obvious and trivial idea so granting a patent for something like this is just silly anyway. But then, the US patent system is completely bonkers and has been granting patents for all sorts of silly stuff for years, so par for the course.

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Old 11-12-2009, 08:50 PM   #14
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^ software patents are awsome. imagine if i patented the idea of a digital file so that any program that makes use of storing data on a digital file i would get a royalty.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:56 PM   #15
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Fairness?
So don't gksudo, gksu and kdesu fall into that category?
fair enough, i was correcting previous posters.
i am not familiar with gui methods of using sudo (is typing sudo really that hard ?
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