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samwwwblack 10-24-2004 09:32 AM

Microsoft changes it's "Get the Facts" Campaign
 
Reuters, Washington DC: It appears that Microsoft has changed tactics in it's "Get the Facts" Campaign; it has moved onto Windows error messages, which they claim are more frequent and informative than in Linux.

"We're confident that by advertising Windows error dialogues, we can show that Windows has better error detection, retention and repetition to enable faster debugging than in Linux" says a spokesman.

An advert of an error message appeared in Toronto earlier this week.

"The variety and depth of errors means that Windows detects them better than Linux, which barely produces any at all. How can Linux claim to be less buggy if there's no error messages?" stated Steve Ballmer, CEO Microsoft.

Microsoft has been under pressure from Linux in the past few years, due to Linux apparrent stability, security and better design.
Microsoft has however disputed the claims, and launched the "Get The Facts" Campaign, with the Gartner Group providing some research supporting the campaign.

"We can see that Windows has again outperformed Linux, this time in it's error display technology. We can conclusively say that Windows has more error dialogues than Linux" Gartner reported shortly after Microsoft's announcement.

Reacting to the adverts, Linus Torvalds said "Sure Linux has error messages; we just put them all in a screensaver"

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Yeah it's satire, it's not real. Enjoy :)

trickykid 10-24-2004 10:48 AM

Well of course Windows has more error messages.. it has more things go wrong :D

And when I used Windows, I don't recall 90% of them making any sense to me.

"x00012ADFS10002883FDAP Exception Error" <-- Yeah, errors like that make alot of sense of why the kernel crashed and gave the blue screen.. :rolleyes:

SciYro 10-24-2004 12:57 PM

yes, quite true trickykid.

Quote:

"The variety and depth of errors means that Windows detects them better than Linux, which barely produces any at all. How can Linux claim to be less buggy if there's no error messages?" stated Steve Ballmer, CEO Microsoft.
correct me if I'm wrong here, but arnt error messages supposed to say when a error occurs, and why it happened? ........ so if use the definition of error message as reporting errors, then saying your product has more error messages is like saying its rather unstable

but he is correct in that linux produces very little error messages .... here is a list of errors i have received in my almost a year trip with linux:

cant mount vfs
kernel panic: (some reason)

thats all i remember ....... tho if you want the logs to count for error messages, mine are so detailed they would put windows to shame (almost every logging option for grsec is turned on ... included "exec logging" ) ... can windows do that stevey?

samwwwblack 10-24-2004 02:05 PM

I feel people have missed the point; I didnt write this to show how (un)stable windows is, as we all know ourselves; its one of many reasons why we switched to Linux.

I wrote it as a piece of humour, about the picture I saw which made me laugh, and how I thought MS would "spin" errors into something positive, and given the latest joke from MS was the "Get the Facts" campaign I included it.

It's a bit of fun, nothing more. :)

[Edit: Could it be it sounds too realistic? Anyone from MS want to offer me a job? :D:cool:]

Sam

320mb 10-24-2004 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by samwwwblack
I feel people have missed the point;
Not me......the only time I get an error in Linux is if I forget to install a required library that a program needs to compile..........

Does anyone remember the old Timex Watch commercials??
just like Timex.............Linux takes a licking and keeps on ticking..............

((meanwhile))
M$ windows takes a licking and Crashes every half hour and needs a reboot.............LOL

nuka_t 10-24-2004 09:45 PM

wtf, htis is retarded.

its like ford saying BMW's suck cause the "problem with engine" light never goes on in hte bmw.

in linux "error" messages in teh console are much more informative than windows popups. in linux it says "x is missing from y" in windows it says "something is missing"

jonr 10-24-2004 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by samwwwblack

[Edit: Could it be it sounds too realistic? Anyone from MS want to offer me a job? :D:cool:]

Sam

You had me fooled till I saw the disclaimer about it being satire!

That's pretty scary in itself, isn't it?

And yes, TrickyKid, I love it when I get a hexadecimal address referring to a line inside a secret
proprietary program that's supposed to qualify as an explanation of why my friend's Windows
computer just crashed! That's Microsoft for you. It must be right, as they obviously can do no
wrong.

qwijibow 10-24-2004 10:18 PM

lol...

i upgraded from Windows2K to XP at the same time i got Linux....
and my internet connection was a dialup with an anchant software modem.

the company was long gone, but its dead site did have an XP driver that was "digitally signed by microsoft"
but the hardware was old and crap, but the only modem i had.... and it worked ok in win2k.

so i installed the modem in windowsXP and Redhat 9.

Windows XP error message : "Error Code 10"
i looked up error code 10.. "Error code 10: the device could not be started because it is unplugged or not functioning correctly"

what !!! not functioning correctly was the error message !!!!

The Linux Redhat9 Error message: "This module was compiled with a different gcc version than the kernel, this is known not to work. please re-compile the module"

the linux error message may be jiberish to uneducated computer users... but itleast it gets you started..

error code 10: it aint workin cos it isnt working

dont tell me anything !

so dont even joke about it :P

jonr 10-24-2004 10:25 PM

I also love the way Windows sternly chides you about the proper way to shut down your computer, EVERY time it restarts after crashing due to its own faulty OS or applications. I always want to throw something at the screen, but I realize it's not the screen's fault. :D

m_shroom 10-24-2004 11:46 PM

If you want an eye opener read:

Security Report: Windows vs Linux

that I founld the other day at The Register

http://www.theregister.co.uk/securit...dows_vs_linux/

jaz 10-25-2004 01:00 AM

my all time favorite Windows annoyance was ....drum rolll....Windows has finished installing the software for your unknown device. LOL, course that only pertained to Windows 9X/ME

Windows has detected an unknown device and is installing the drivers for it.

nuka_t 10-26-2004 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by qwijibow
lol...

i upgraded from Windows2K to XP at the same time i got Linux....
and my internet connection was a dialup with an anchant software modem.

the company was long gone, but its dead site did have an XP driver that was "digitally signed by microsoft"
but the hardware was old and crap, but the only modem i had.... and it worked ok in win2k.

so i installed the modem in windowsXP and Redhat 9.

Windows XP error message : "Error Code 10"
i looked up error code 10.. "Error code 10: the device could not be started because it is unplugged or not functioning correctly"

what !!! not functioning correctly was the error message !!!!

The Linux Redhat9 Error message: "This module was compiled with a different gcc version than the kernel, this is known not to work. please re-compile the module"

the linux error message may be jiberish to uneducated computer users... but itleast it gets you started..

error code 10: it aint workin cos it isnt working

dont tell me anything !

so dont even joke about it :P

lol, htats so funny.

when i was tryin out longhorn, i got the same code 10 error for my integrated NIC after installing nfoce drivers. the funny thing is taht in longhorn, the error message is even less detailed. it just says "code:10" it seems that you are actually loosing functionality as you upgrade OS's from ms.

alaindu 05-18-2005 10:08 AM

LOL

m_shroom 05-18-2005 11:55 AM

New Get the Facts Home Page
 
From the Liunx perspective that is
Quote:

Leading companies and organizations confirms the fact: Linux lowers the total cost of ownership and outperforms Windows.
http://getthefacts.nu/

stabile007 05-18-2005 02:27 PM

Both sides of this controvery tend to flood the market with biased information. I take both with a grain of salt and plow my own path.


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