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Old 09-03-2013, 11:54 AM   #1
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Smile Microsoft buys Nokia


Nokia will die,
WP won't be successful also.
 
Old 09-03-2013, 12:32 PM   #2
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I wonder what this will mean for PySide. Isn't PySide still owned by Nokia?
 
Old 09-03-2013, 03:41 PM   #3
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The act of a desperate move to compete in the mobile market where iphones and android reigns.
 
Old 09-03-2013, 09:28 PM   #4
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WP won't be successful also.
I trust that, by WP, you mean something other than WordPress. (Edit: If you mean WordPerfect, it's so dead that I didn't even think of it.)

As for Nokia, they lost their way a long time ago. Selling themselves to MS, whose mobile track record is about as dismal as it can be, was a desperation move.

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Old 09-03-2013, 09:35 PM   #5
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Nokia got 42MP camera technology. It will see the future better???
 
Old 09-04-2013, 04:42 AM   #6
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Goodbye Nokia
 
Old 09-04-2013, 05:19 AM   #7
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Nokia got 42MP camera technology. It will see the future better???
No.
 
Old 09-04-2013, 11:51 AM   #8
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After Ballmer's truly gone, and Microsoft's Board of Directors (finally ...) gets a firm grip on "what should Microsoft Corporation be when it grows up," then I predict that Nokia will be quietly divested, along with a number of other "non-software" acquisitions.

Microsoft's current problem is that it really doesn't know what it wants to be. It clearly sees what it is not, and it sees other companies making money doing those things right now, so part of Microsoft thinks, "well, we've got to hurry-up and be that, too!" Not necessarily. (In fact, "probably not.") Microsoft needs to refocus its attention upon what it is truly best at, which IMHO is pure-software, and then to focus its formidable resources on that one thing.

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Old 09-05-2013, 12:19 PM   #9
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Historically Microsoft dominated the traditional Desktop PC/Laptop market and in the last decade or so it has seen a number of new problems which it has been ill prepared for:

- The desktop PC/laptop market has been eroded by tablets, smartphones, etc. The average person does not want a computer, they want a device which can access the web - in particular social networking, etc.
- There are other competitors creeping into the home desktop/laptop and server markets which have had MS spooked, and even the former, somewhat diminishing, market is not a completely safe bet.
- Apple have come back, especially with respect to mobile devices (smartphones and tablets).
- While mobile devices do not necessarily compete with the traditional model of MS windows on a desktop/laptop - they do compete as platforms for accessing the web - this is a big problem.
- Competing platforms are pulling users away from MS products and services.
- As with Blackberry, MS' shareholders don't care about all of the above - MS needs to compete in the smartphone/tablet market and that's all there is to it.

Buying Nokia won't necessarily turn around WP's fortunes, but it might stop Nokia being gobbled up by one of it's competitors, which would probably have been the death blow for WP.

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Old 09-14-2013, 02:14 AM   #10
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Will Nokia disappear ?
 
Old 09-14-2013, 02:30 AM   #11
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After Ballmer's truly gone, and Microsoft's Board of Directors (finally ...) gets a firm grip on "what should Microsoft Corporation be when it grows up," then I predict that Nokia will be quietly divested, along with a number of other "non-software" acquisitions.

Microsoft's current problem is that it really doesn't know what it wants to be. It clearly sees what it is not, and it sees other companies making money doing those things right now, so part of Microsoft thinks, "well, we've got to hurry-up and be that, too!" Not necessarily. (In fact, "probably not.") Microsoft needs to refocus its attention upon what it is truly best at, which IMHO is pure-software, and then to focus its formidable resources on that one thing.
Spot on, again. I think MS is trying to hard to compete with Apple. Apple has PC, laptops, phones, tablets, so MS thinks it must have these things as well.
 
Old 09-16-2013, 05:43 AM   #12
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Windows phone outselling iphone in middle east
 
Old 09-16-2013, 06:32 AM   #13
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Windows phone outselling iphone in middle east
Middle east is a small market compared to places like India or China (both with approximately 1/5 of the worlds population so thats 2/5 combined).
 
Old 09-16-2013, 08:48 AM   #14
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Windows phone outselling iphone in middle east
So?

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Smartphones are gaining wide acceptance in the Middle East, with two out of every five phones sold in the region being smartphones. According to a report by IDC, smartphone shipments grew 16.2 percent in Q2 13 over the same period last year. Nokia was the leader in the market when it came to overall mobile sales, capturing 45.2 percent market by volume. Samsung was in the second spot with an 18.3 percent share.

However, when it comes to just smartphones, Samsung outsold Nokia five to one in the region. Company’s Galaxy S III and Galaxy S III Mini were the wo most popular handsets. With that, Android accounted for 60 percent of the entire smartphone market in these countries. Windows Phone overtook Apple in Q2, with Nokia’s market share rising to 11.8 percent from 9.7% in Q1. Apple on the other hand lost some market share and was able to capture 11.4 percent of the market.
http://techivian.com/windows-phone-o...e-middle-east/

From that report, in the middle east 'dumb' phones outsell 'smart' phones, and windows phone is roughly breaking even with apple. Both are only 'bit players', with 11% sales each, android is outselling them 6 to 1....
 
Old 09-17-2013, 10:12 PM   #15
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What's wrong with WP8 ?
Isn't it stable and fast?
Its apps are also increasing.
 
  


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