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Old 01-22-2013, 04:36 PM   #76
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If done well you can get as high eating it but it takes at lest 25X more GOOD weed than smoking or vaporizing(which also takes more than smoke (X2ish)). So at $10 a bite X20 its not worth it plus that is a lot of butter to get sick on, we threw up within an hour and you can kill a Marijuana buzz completely. Altho hash-oil\THC\California\* and modern medicine can\have come up with good smokeless alternatives (especially if legal) can't remember the name offhand (not a side-effect ) but I've heard of THC pills that also don't work as well as smoke?

Shrms are fun but you can over do them like alchl!

We can make oil\* and get smart enough to sustain this planet\* but we'll have to give it???100s?1000s?years?lives?*?

Love to see what would happen if they made the g☢d old(but not as old as p❁t) acetic-acid-fuel illegal (again) but decriminalized Mj, maybe if they legalize it first then after some time take away booze? I think that would be better.

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Old 01-23-2013, 01:11 AM   #77
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I am favor of legalizing it however with a few restrictions. One is that every user get a license each year. Make them pay a large amount for it like any sin tax. Also make them watch an emergency room each year on Friday or Saturday night. Let them see the destruction in lives caused by drugs with the blood of their neighbors.
I've smoked canabis for a long time, with lots of different people, and the only issues I've seen have been a few cases of paranioa. I've _never_ seen the crap I've seen even with alcohol (like the typical '2 friends get into a nasty fight, 1 hour later they are doing the whole 'I love you mate' thing).

If you've going to take people to an emergency room to see the 'destruction' start off with car users.

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If done well you can get as high eating it but it takes at lest 25X more GOOD weed than smoking or vaporizing(which also takes more than smoke (X2ish)). So at $10 a bite X20 its not worth it plus that is a lot of butter to get sick on, we threw up within an hour and you can kill a Marijuana buzz completely.
25 times more for eating vs smoking? You've got to be joking. Mostly I see it at twice as much needed for eating vs smoking......depending on the method used- e.g. in alcohol, in fats/butter, as hash or even just muching raw cannabis (yes that does work!).

Even though it does take more, the high tends to last longer with eating vs smoking.

Its quite possible that if you did use huge amounts of cannabis in some cooking/eating method you actually overdosed. Its a known problem with eating cannabis.

http://weedsmokersguide.com/pros-cons-eating-weed/

Even if it was times 25 much needed to get high eating vs smoking, if cannabis was a reasonable price (100 grams for $10-100 depending on quality) it wouldnt matter.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 02:58 AM   #78
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It's legal now, in CO and my home state of WA. Feds don't like it, but Oh well! Didn't smoke the stuff for the past ten years until recently. I'm an alcoholic and my main concern is, will it lead me back to the booze? The latter causes much more damage to families and individuals, I know.

Admittedly, it took me a long time to develop the self-discipline that even now is sometimes lacking. But I'd rather go a little overboard on occassion with cannabis than alcohol. My friends and family agree.

I do not feel it will endanger my sobriety at this stage in my life, thank my Creator! That's all I'm really concerned about.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 04:11 AM   #79
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I wonder if I should start an anonymous poll to see the amount of drug use.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 10:11 AM   #80
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Interesting information.

Unless someone needs it as a pain killer where other pain killers would not work, or be too expensive, it's a waste of one's life, and probably brain cells. Like all medicines, it's going to have side effects.


About the smoking verses eating, what about chewing it like tobacco? Has anyone tried that? Would that get faster results?

I suppose someone could shoot up with it, to get fast results without the lung damage, but using needles would add a higher risk.

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Old 01-23-2013, 10:29 AM   #81
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Unless someone needs it as a pain killer where other pain killers would not work, or be too expensive, it's a waste of one's life, and probably brain cells. Like all medicines, it's going to have side effects.
Fair enough position to take, if you are a puritian. Almost anything that people find enjoyable can and has been described as a 'waste of life'.

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About the smoking verses eating, what about chewing it like tobacco? Has anyone tried that? Would that get faster results?
Its slower, much slower, and quite inefficient. Your body doesnt absorb the active ingredidents from cannabis very well. Its better to use butter or alcolhol to absorb the cannabinoids, its more efficient (less wastage) and doesnt take as long to get the effects.

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I suppose someone could shoot up with it, to get fast results without the lung damage, but using needles would add a higher risk.
I believe that it is possible to inject cannabinoids. However, you'd be insane to try it with anything but pure/purified THC.....which is rarer than hens teeth. A lot of the chemicals you need to purify THC are the same ones needed for production of other drugs (in particular ether).

Even if you got pure THC, you still couldnt pay me enough to shoot the stuff up. Put crap into your lungs? You get a cough, and maybe some more serious complications later on. Put crap into your bloodsteam? Abseces, ulcers, sores, septicemia and other nasties are more than possible. There is also a much great risk both for you and others of some of the blood born diseases, in particular Hep C.
 
Old 01-24-2013, 01:14 AM   #82
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Also weed doesn’t react with other drugs to produce death!
 
Old 01-27-2013, 06:14 PM   #83
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Well, When I fire up the computer, kick in xmms, light a doobie. Then start working around my M/C shop. I get all kinds of work done because I can concentrate. I can move about without feeling pain. I can ignore my body.

When I don't spark up. I get less work done because I notice the pain. So I break open a beer. Feels worse in the long run (after effects). More clumsy also.

@Htex The only time I see psychosis linked to marijuana was when I worked as a maint. man for the prison system. Lots of busted smokers going nuts in prison.

Only side effect I see with weed is law enforcement. Law enforcement can be very bad for your health in the long run and short run and leads to other side effects like being broke and homeless.

Oxycotin I can get legally, Same for Sleeping pills. Same for morphine pills. Go figure. What a joke.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 07:09 PM   #84
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LD50 (mean lethal dose) of various substances
Caffeine: about 150 to 200 milligrams per Kg
Alcohol: about .3 to .5% bac
Nicotine: 0.5–1.0 mg/kg
THC: 1260 milligrams per kg
there has never been a documented dath from smoking pot

personally though I've never understood the whole 'it could be hazardous to your health' argument for making a substance Illegal, especially in a society that preaches personal freedoms, we should be free to put anything in our own bodies if we wish, whether it be pot, tobacco, alcohol or even potassium Cyanide which would explicitly KILL you, as long as you don't harm others in the process.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 02:44 PM   #85
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Stoner is another word for loser.
 
Old 01-28-2013, 03:39 PM   #86
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Drunk?
 
Old 01-28-2013, 05:43 PM   #87
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My brother is a huge pothead, and when i was a kid he would rob me of of everything including my xbox but my parents never did anything so i hate weed

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Old 01-28-2013, 07:45 PM   #88
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Wow: xbox, win7, crappy kid brother; I don't even know where to start how about blame the $y$tem$!?.

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Drunk?
no.
 
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Obviously is: so drunk he doesn't even know it.
 
  


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