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Old 12-28-2012, 02:15 PM   #61
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:22 AM   #62
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Has Sauron really convinced you of this ? Sure, all his propaganda networks are screaming it, "demographic tsunami", etc. Do you really believe it ? What convinced you ?

Pretty soon, he'll be pushing for war, or who knows, maybe lots of people will be declared "terrorists" and put down like dogs. Do you really agree with it ? Is it really us, the people, who have to die ? and why ?
facts convinced me of this the planet can only carry so meany humans with out oil
FACT OIL IS RUNNING OUT!
we indirectly eat oil with conventional farming there are 11 calories of oil energy
put in for every food calorie put out
in the year before GM corn and GM soybeans the ratio was 1 to 1
when oil runs out the population will crash to about 5% of what it is now
most likely less because of the wars that will result when conventional farming ends



less people less pollution
less people less demand on the planet
the fewer people there are the longer our supply of the new staph of life (OIL)
will last
the fewer people there are the higher the standard of living for everybody except for the rich who's standard of living is as high as it can get
the fewer people there are the more value to society each person has
at 20% population people would be of such high value that nobody would starve to death or sit unproductive in prison for life

so break out the birth control and drugs

war is the biggest waste of resources and cause of suffering there ever was

I'm not advocating killing anyone at all
BUT
I am all for the freedom to kill your self by what ever means that
DOSE NOT EFFECT ANYBODY ELSE you choose other than the emotional pain of others

if the people in ones life don't help at making one's life worth living or contribute to life being worthless then they deserve the pain of the loss of someone
(lesson from the white slave trade)
here in the US the population IS being thinned out right NOW by with holding health care from those who can't buy health insurance

some (depending on political views) doctors do less for medicaid recipients than for private insurance policy holders

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Old 01-08-2013, 12:05 PM   #63
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'Gateway' drug theory. I'd be willing to bet that most, if not all of the people you have had die (or worse..yes, there is worse) due to ODs started on alcohol or cigarettes.

I know of several people who got nasty harder drug habits due to not being able to get weed (normally due to a 'weed drought' where supply is interrupted for various reasons). Which is just one reason why I think that cannabis should be legal..if people didnt have to get cannabis from drug dealers, there would be no weed droughts...and even if there was, the users wouldnt be associating with drug dealers who can and quite often do sell other drugs.
the gateway effect is a direct result of it being illegal
the pot dealer is likely to sell other drugs as well pot has a low profit margin
due to the number of pot dealers competing with each other
so saying that pot should be illegal because it leads to harder drugs
is the exact same as saying pot should be illegal because it is illegal
the gateway argument is nonsense propaganda
believable only by those who have no clue about how markets work
even when there lives depend on store bought food
 
Old 01-08-2013, 11:40 PM   #64
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I've been against the drug laws for quite some time, but, without drug laws, what vehicle would we use to get rid of "undesirables" who commit no other major crime? If the states do manage to legalize marijuana, and I think they will, then something with the same effect will replace the drug laws. Sadly, it's the drug laws, themselves, that turn so many kids into undesirables.
 
Old 01-09-2013, 06:35 AM   #65
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facts convinced me of this the planet can only carry so meany humans with out oil
FACT OIL IS RUNNING OUT!
we indirectly eat oil with conventional farming there are 11 calories of oil energy
put in for every food calorie put out
in the year before GM corn and GM soybeans the ratio was 1 to 1
when oil runs out the population will crash to about 5% of what it is now
most likely less because of the wars that will result when conventional farming ends



less people less pollution
less people less demand on the planet
the fewer people there are the longer our supply of the new staph of life (OIL)
will last
the fewer people there are the higher the standard of living for everybody except for the rich who's standard of living is as high as it can get
the fewer people there are the more value to society each person has
at 20% population people would be of such high value that nobody would starve to death or sit unproductive in prison for life

so break out the birth control and drugs

war is the biggest waste of resources and cause of suffering there ever was

I'm not advocating killing anyone at all
BUT
I am all for the freedom to kill your self by what ever means that
DOSE NOT EFFECT ANYBODY ELSE you choose other than the emotional pain of others

if the people in ones life don't help at making one's life worth living or contribute to life being worthless then they deserve the pain of the loss of someone
(lesson from the white slave trade)
here in the US the population IS being thinned out right NOW by with holding health care from those who can't buy health insurance

some (depending on political views) doctors do less for medicaid recipients than for private insurance policy holders
You seem right man but that is pretty depressing.
 
Old 01-09-2013, 07:35 AM   #66
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You seem right man but that is pretty depressing.
Cheer up man ... spark up a doobie!
 
Old 01-09-2013, 12:21 PM   #67
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I don't think anyone should use or abuse any form of drug legal or not. I don't use it myself. Many of my generation have used it and other drugs for 50 years or more and I believe they have been affected by it's use. They have many emotional issue and personal interaction and learning issues that I find common in all of them. There are very few "good" drugs that I have ever seen. Aspirin may be one of the few that has health benefits that couldn't get approved today if it were introduced even.

I am favor of legalizing it however with a few restrictions. One is that every user get a license each year. Make them pay a large amount for it like any sin tax. Also make them watch an emergency room each year on Friday or Saturday night. Let them see the destruction in lives caused by drugs with the blood of their neighbors.

Also there is the huge cost to the people of countries affected by the crimes of drugs. Places like Columbia, Mexico, Thailand, Afghanistan and many others are suffering a huge death toll due to drugs.

Consider eating well and getting excessive and finding good friends and hobbies or civic work to get you though the day.
 
Old 01-09-2013, 02:21 PM   #68
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Thinking is a drug! And, never judge all by a few in evolution... "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
 
Old 01-09-2013, 04:15 PM   #69
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I don't think anyone should use or abuse any form of drug legal or not.
Could you be a bit more specific? I'm assuming you didn't mean to say that people shouldn't use drugs like insulin, for example. What about caffeine? Sleeping aids? Painkillers? Birth control pills?
 
Old 01-09-2013, 04:26 PM   #70
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Honestly 21 isn't quite old enough, especially for war! If you want to get high
moderation (except "answers") kicks a#!

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Something to listen to while you're discussing in this thread:
http://youtu.be/ZxtW2yhxAkU

Recreational and moderately, especially if I have the flu! The potency of it nowadays makes lip gloss that gets nonusers high so eating weed works, let me tell you from experience(with asthma thanks to the world I vaporize as well)! (Take it how you'd like we will anyway.)

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Old 01-10-2013, 12:32 AM   #71
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Also there is the huge cost to the people of countries affected by the crimes of drugs. Places like Columbia, Mexico, Thailand, Afghanistan and many others are suffering a huge death toll due to drugs.
Actually, all those problems are attributable to the drug LAWS rather than the drugs themselves.
 
Old 01-10-2013, 12:37 AM   #72
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One is that every user get a license each year. Make them pay a large amount for it like any sin tax.
IOW, make it cheaper and less hassle to get it from the black market? Yeah, that'll work. Jefro, are you happy with the violence that goes with prohibition, or would you rather accept that people are going to use drugs either way and focus our efforts on getting rid of the violence? People will continue to use drugs either way, it's just that one of the ways fewer people are killed.
 
Old 01-21-2013, 11:47 PM   #73
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You know that Albert Einstein smoked marijuana in that wooden pipe he always had, correct? Marijuana is that type of drug that more benefits you than anything out there. Hell, it's used in the medical fields.....
 
Old 01-22-2013, 04:59 AM   #74
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I made a post earlier to this on this thread somewhere. It referenced magic mushrooms or something, but i'm to lazy to find it and follow it up completely, so i'm just going to start again.
Almost a year ago, i used Cannabis for the first time. My first illegal drug used (effectively, the first was actually peyote, but it did nothing) was magic mushrooms. My appeal for mushrooms was create by simply being a psychedelic, and the fact they did not need to be smoked, injected or snorted (I am not a smoker). I had to educate my self by researching the internet to be able to accurately identify the right mushrooms plus many other things. At the very least, i learned a lot about mushrooms in general. I used mild doses of shrooms for a few years by my self and enjoyed the state they put me in. I grew up with a few people whom regularly participated in marijuana, but i let them do as they wish and i did my own thing (usually just have a few drinks), because i was not a smoker. Growing up and being around these people did spark a curiosity in me though. I wanted to know what it was like. I began researching cannabis and found out that alcohol absorbs thc. I have since made a thc laced high proof alcoholic beverage. You do not get drunk; it is not possible to get drunk before getting to high that you spew. I have now experience the highs of marijuana. It is pleasant, although different to shrooms, and the dry mouth is the worst side effect; but i enjoyed it overall and can see why people would engage in it often. Personally, i think the effects were nicer than that of alcohol, and i'd look forward to the day where people have a beverage that gets them high rather than drunk at a pub.

p.s.
As a side note. In my previous experiences with shrooms, i could not get a hard on at all. Weed on the other hand got me very very horny. (sorry if that's inappropriate, but it's a very noticeable thing between the two that i've found, which i thought was relevant).
 
Old 01-22-2013, 10:33 AM   #75
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I began researching cannabis and found out that alcohol absorbs thc. I have since made a thc laced high proof alcoholic beverage. You do not get drunk; it is not possible to get drunk before getting to high that you spew.
Maybe for people that dont normally consume cannabis and have some alcohol tolerance. For someoe with a high tolerance to THC (and the other cannabinoids and stuff besides THC you get in cannabis) and low tolerance to alcohol, it would be quite possible to get drunk.

BTW, eating/drinking cannabis is 'cleaner' and safer than smoking, but is a different effect.
 
  


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