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Old 08-29-2006, 09:10 AM   #1
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Macromedia overwriting web page drop down menus in Firefox


I have a problem viewing this page on the official UK Nissan website

http://www.nissan.co.uk/

It contains a MacroMedia element

It also contains some drop down menus that become enabled when the mouse floats over the "Inside Nissan", "Vehicles", "Services" and "Request Information" elements of the page. If Macromedia is NOT installed the menus are clearly visible. If Macromedia IS installed the menus appear BEHIND the macromedia element.

I've also seen this behviour ocasionally on this site with the new dropdown Search bar.

This behaviour appears on Slackware 10.2, Suse 10.0 and Knoppix 5.0. I've done some searching but don't think I'm asking the right questions!

Any suggestions would be helpful.


Alex
 
Old 08-29-2006, 11:09 AM   #2
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The best suggestion I can give you is to email the webmaster and any PR contacts listed at the site, and tell them that their web page is unreadable with your browser.
 
Old 08-29-2006, 11:46 AM   #3
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If you don't get any joy from the webmaster you could adblock to block the flash video at the front:

http://www.nissan.co.uk/Media-Librar.../uk/loader.swf
 
Old 08-30-2006, 01:24 PM   #4
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I wouldn't have thought it was a problem with the site. The drop down menus work in Internet Explorer.

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Old 08-30-2006, 01:35 PM   #5
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This happens on a few sites with FF+Flash. Might be an idea to post it on mozilla bug forums.
 
Old 08-30-2006, 01:37 PM   #6
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The problem is that different web browsers have different rendering engines, each with their own set of bugs and deviations from standards.

Web designers that try to generate flashy attractive pages push the functional limits of the browsers, and must code around the issues in each. IE, for example, tends to be less standards compliant, and adds many Microsoft proprietary extensions. So the code that works on IE may not work on Firefox or Opera, because they are not trying to emulate Microsoft's proprietary implementation, but rather the W3C standards. Many web designers understand this, and either use a compatible subset (ugly web page), or code to specific browsers (ugly code).

Some folks that call themselves web designers are just incompetent, having learned only one environment (like Microsoft's proprietary world). These folks are the ones that code a web page that will only work in one browser, like the one you ran into. Frequently, these web pages are so browser specific, they will only work in one version of the browser! I've seen web pages that only render properly in IE6 - but not IE5.5 or the IE7 beta. This just gives real professional programmers and web developers a bad name, like any hack in any trade.

In summary, it's not the browser's fault, and it's not the platform's fault - it's the web developer's fault.
 
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Moved: This thread is more suitable in the General Forum and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.
 
  


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