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Old 10-28-2007, 11:02 AM   #1
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Mac OS X, Leopard, just released


Leopard, Mac OS X, 6th Version
here may you find a link wiht screenshot : http://www.svmlemag.fr/actu/01995/leopard_est_sorti
(the text is in french)

Cheers !
 
Old 10-28-2007, 03:06 PM   #2
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woohoo! zfs! time machine! can't wait to play.
 
Old 10-28-2007, 03:42 PM   #3
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From Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.5
"A read-only implementation of zfs is included"

So, unless you have a data partition of ZFS formatted within Solaris 10 on your mac, then there is really no point to it. Plus, not even Solaris 10 supports ZFS as the root filesystem. It still must be UFS as far as I know.

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Old 10-28-2007, 07:53 PM   #4
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If just as Jeebizz said then it seems not so attracting to me any long .
 
Old 10-29-2007, 03:03 AM   #5
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i also have read about how people may have bought it for the reason of enhancing their experience with apple specific handheld devices ...



//hard to accept this a fact ...



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Old 10-29-2007, 08:41 AM   #6
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Jeebizz -- you wanna take that colon off the end of your link, it makes the link not work.

Bummer. It appears zfs didn't make the release in full form. Bit more of a story, but still not a whole lot of detail, here:

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/13909/
 
Old 10-29-2007, 12:38 PM   #7
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Why would anyone want that? Ubuntu and Vista owns Apple...
 
Old 10-29-2007, 01:26 PM   #8
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Vista 'owns' Apple and Ubuntu only for the fact that it is preloaded on every single computer out there now. I, like more informed users are hanging on to XP as long as possible. When inevitably I am forced to go with Vista, I will not only make sure to not get a crippled 'basic' version, but also get a release no less than SP2, since thats the way I started with XP anyways. I'm in no hurry for Vista.

Slackware works just fine for me as for a Linux distro. I wouldn't mind having a stab at Apple's OS, but I refuse under pain of death, to buy an Apple computer. I could always just try to load OSX on more generic hardware. Apple may not like that, but I don't like their premium prices either, so we are both even then.
 
Old 10-29-2007, 06:08 PM   #9
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Well...

"Apple OSX 10.5 hacked in one day" at the Inquirer. Too much for such an expensive and over-hyped system.

Also, "A Leopard ate my Mac" XD
 
Old 10-29-2007, 07:20 PM   #10
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As my profile says, I'm a Mac OS X and Solaris sysadmin. I could point you to many positive reviews and commentary, but I don't think I want to dive into shooting war with a bunch of linux fans on a linux centric forum. At present, I use Solaris for servers, Mac OS X for desktops, and OpenBSD for firewalls and routers. There are other ways to do all of those, and everyone has their own preferences. Whatever works for you is best.

As far as ZFS goes, Sun didn't release it with Solaris 10 either. So, both Sun and Apple seem to be moving to it, but it takes a lot to make that kind of a move when your whole OS was built on top of something else. Apple does have a record of successfully making major transitions in the past. They moved from the 680x0 CPU to the PowerPC. They moved from their own home grown OS base to the Mach Kernel and FreeBSD base of Mac OS X. And, they moved from the PowerPC CPU to Intel. I don't think there is a single other computer company that has made so many major transitions so successfully. So, I have no doubt they can successfully pull off a transition to ZFS. It just didn't make it for this release.

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Old 10-30-2007, 09:30 AM   #11
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I was also a little disappointed by it not having a full ZFS implementation, but at least they're heading in that direction. These things take time.

Upgrade went real smooth and I was VERY pleased to see that the previously (IMO) horribly broken X11 implementation now works MUCH better!

Time Machine itself looks to be well worth the upgrade. It's currently doing the first pass backup, so no real-world experience using it yet. However, if it performs as advertised (which Apple stuff usually does)...

Not so sure I like some of the UI changes. However, I'll get used to them eventually (just like I did for XP & Solaris 10 JDS, and will for Vista as well).
 
  


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