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Old 02-08-2006, 08:40 AM   #1
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Mac and Windows dual boot


Does anyone know if it is possible to do a Mac and Windows dual boot on a Sony Vaio Intel Centrino notebook? I am stumped with this. Would I need to re partition the drive and everything first as it is a single drive computer?
 
Old 02-08-2006, 12:35 PM   #2
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do you have a version of Mac OS that will run on an intel? the two os's to not run on the same hardware, windows runs on a PC and Mac OS runs on Mac hardware. however, Mac has, or will be very soon, started to use intel chips, so that it will be possible to run Mac OS on an x86 pc machine. I am unware of any Mac OS ports to x86 processors otherwise.
 
Old 02-08-2006, 12:57 PM   #3
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Mac has released it's intel version, but I seem to remember hearing that it has some sort of "Trusted Hardware" module built in so that it won't run properly on a standard "beige box."
 
Old 02-08-2006, 04:40 PM   #4
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I do not have a copy of Mac yet.
 
Old 02-08-2006, 08:13 PM   #5
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if youre asking because of this: http://windowsxp.onmac.net/The%20Contest.html

do you think we would tell you if we knew? we want to $BLING$
 
Old 02-08-2006, 08:33 PM   #6
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I'm pretty sure Apple has put something in their OS so that it can't be installed on a standard PC. However, I believe there is nothing in the Apple hardware that stops you from running XP(nothing that was intended that way, anyway, the EFI(as opposed to BIOS), doesn't support XP, but that's another story).

So in short, I don't think so
 
Old 02-08-2006, 09:45 PM   #7
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you can run teh x86 osx on a stadard pc. there are just some processor and hardware requirements. plus, im not sure if its really legal.
 
Old 02-09-2006, 06:18 AM   #8
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you can run teh x86 osx on a stadard pc. there are just some processor and hardware requirements. plus, im not sure if its really legal.
Running the leaked version is illegal. Downloading it is illegal and I hope if you have it you get caught.

If you're looking to go buy a copy of OS X for their Intel machines and installing it on your notebook it won't work. The x86 OS X will only run on Apple hardware and that will be enforced using DRM and all sorts of fancy protection methods. I've heard plenty of OS X horror stories anyway, it looks good but everything looks good in theory otherwise it wouldn't have been invented. In practise though, it might not be as great as you think.
 
Old 02-09-2006, 12:56 PM   #9
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Running the leaked version is illegal. Downloading it is illegal and I hope if you have it you get caught.
I couldnt agree more.
 
Old 02-15-2006, 05:51 PM   #10
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if youre asking because of this: http://windowsxp.onmac.net/The%20Contest.html

do you think we would tell you if we knew? we want to $BLING$
Umm.. I have never seen that before. Plus, it is opposite what I am trying to do.

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I'm pretty sure Apple has put something in their OS so that it can't be installed on a standard PC. However, I believe there is nothing in the Apple hardware that stops you from running XP(nothing that was intended that way, anyway, the EFI(as opposed to BIOS), doesn't support XP, but that's another story).

So in short, I don't think so
I think you are right.. that is rediculous.
 
Old 02-15-2006, 08:05 PM   #11
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Mac OS X has two layers of "protection" against illegal copying: TPM and EFI.

TPM is already cracked but it's illegal (I don't know if it's illegal in ALL the countries) to use that to install Mac OS X on generic x86 boxes.

EFI is simply the sucessor of BIOS and Apple support it earlier than most (if not all) OS developers and hardware manufacturers.

What is not illegal is to install the FOSS kernel Darwin (base of Mac OS X) add OpenGL and X11 and run some ports (mostly from *BSD).

Cocoa (Mac OS 'Classic' based API), Carbon (NeXT OS based API) and Aqua (Mac OS X GUI) are closed and propietary. Cocoa will basically be dead in OS X version 10.5. Carbon is useful only if you need to run Mac OS X apps 'smoothly'. Aqua can be sort of "emulated" using cheap skins for Windows XP that "resemble" Aqua.

What may be a good idea is to use Mac OS X on an Apple computer (maybe laptops, which cann't be easily built by users) and run virtualization software that emulate BIOS to run OSs compiled for x86.
 
  


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