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I have played with Mac OS X, and it is pretty stable, fast, and powerful. However, Mac is not near as big as x86 machines. Linux runs on the same machines as Windows, and then some. Mac would only have a chance if it ported its OS to x86 platforms for the people that use them.
Quite a lot of OSX is FreeBSD actually. A friend of mine was showing me how he got Xemacs to work on his new $1600 Mac Notebook. This was while he was fiddling with the wireless LAN I put together to sponge off of his Cable connection... which cost me about $25.
That's the difference between PC and Mac. Crack it open, rip it apart, fiddle with it, wipe off the peanut butter and ram it back in the ISA slot.
Wow, what a tangent, what was this thread about again?
Is M$ scared? Heck man, I am. The guy that really well ghost-wrote Just For Fun pointed out something rather interesting; that Linux (and here I really mean the whole OS, not just the Kernel, so this may be over-generalized), is the largest collaborative project in history.
gotta step in here... talking about better, seriously need to get into BSD. Open- is the shiz; ppl really concerned about security don't risk the linux exploits. (Yes, Linux has exploits, if you look at it the right way).
Like someone once said;
Linux is for people who hate Microsoft... BSD is for people who love Unix.
regardless of what BSD or Linux may be, or who it may be for, i'm sure Open- is not the 'shiz', as so eloquently put by sancho5. otherwise, the lot of us wil be using lotsa 'shiz' and loving it! sounds ironical.
but then again, we're all entitled to our own opinion.
btw, i don't hate MS... i don't have that kind of time to cultivate a negative emotion towards a faceless organization. but i do like linux a lot. so that kinda refutes the thing that 'someone' said about "Linux is for people who hate Microsoft... BSD is for people who love Unix."
much like in C, once the falsity of the first statement is determined, the second part of the statement will not even so much as be entertained by the compiler...
No, I agree with you. thanks for setting me straight.
what I said wasn't an attack at Linux, so bristle down. those that haven't spent a lot of time in OpenBSD can't appreciate its advantages - security being foremost; stability in structure and design being closely thereafter. Things a lot of Linux distros' developers don't place as high on their list.
No OS wars here, though right?
Anyway, this threads been so off topic for the longest time already.
insecure.org (makers of nmap) had a survey some time ago asking the visitors what thier favorite security related tools turned out to be (both open-source and commercial.)
Every participant could name 5 or their most used tools, in whatever range qualified as security related (port scanners, vulnerability scanners, password cracks, OSes, etc.) What would you all put on your list?
lol.. and people say that if women ruled the world, there wouldn't be any wars...
I don't think we're at each other's throats on this. I worded my response a bit inappropriately, so never mind me on that.
You are bit of a devil-girl, but we love you for it! We're all still friends, right?
Anyway, on with the question I posed earlier. Even if you don't have security related proggies in mind, list your 5 favorite apps that you use and why they are so useful. Let's get this thread hoppin' again.