lol

I'm really trying to work just on linux... that screenshots really helped me

lol. It looks good on first site, but I doubt I would have the nerves to endure it for more than 1 hour, with all that fancy animation and transparency that (probably) still does not support png.

And another thing... I very much doubt that longhorn's going to introduce a bash (let alone czsh) equivalent shell. It's made for users that are fools and so it is supposed to be fool-proof. (Yet the default setting for users will still probably be administrator )

Windows is user-friendly (aiming at n00bs and secretarys (no offence, you know who I mean)), linux is expert friendly.

please note that the above (about windows and linux user friendlyness) is partially a quote from I don't know where.

What i think is going to happen is that microsoft will add support for the win9x api (like wine does for linux), but it won't be full featured. As for the color of longhorn they replaced the theme with Slate, and it will likely be replaced again as longhorn is still early alpha.

There where 3 things i saw that were interesting. The new 3d control panel is pretty sweet. THe new look for IE is pretty sweet(but it is still IE 6 for some reason), and the new WinFS technology. Basically what it lets you do is put all of your files in one folder called documents. Then when you click on music on the desktop, it automatically filters out all of the music files from that folder, not by extention, but by content. However it is very slow, and nowhere near as reliable as linux's slocate.

That thing better support the KingsQuest serires (at least versions 5 and 6!)

From what I've read, the read speed for Longhorn's filesystem is supposed to be pretty fast. When I was reading an article about ReiserFS4, they said that its main thing was that it was going to compete against Longhorn's filesystem. I forget the speed differences, but I think ReiserFS4 is around 4x faster than the current NTFS. I'll try to find the article.


As for the 3d control panel, I swear that MS has some deal with the hardware companies to make sure that their products that are more than 1 year old are completely obsolete, so people will have to upgrade....

These are the recommended requirements for windows longhorn(it is still alpha so these will probably drop like they did for the alphas of windows xp) i got these from http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase..._4051_tips.asp

Processor: 2.0 GHz Pentium 4 or higher.
Memory: 512 MB of RAM minimum; 1 GB recommended.
Hard drive space allocated to Longhorn partition: At least 10 GB

that is insane

O yeah, Windows Longhorn still uses NTFS. WinFS is a service that runs in the background(and uses 180mb of ram!!). WinFS can be implemented in Win200/xp also, but i don't think it will. It leaks memory like crazy right now.

/me faints at the sight of those specs, and memory usages

if a OS requires half a gig of ram, it has to be shit!, there would be hardly any ram left for the poor old other programs that matter!

i think Macro$shit has over done it this time, theres no way in hell most of the population would be happy with it, after all, with needing 10 GB of space is just wasteful, and most people probably cant afford (well, they can, but theres better places to put it) a gig of ram just to run a OS in its comfort zone..... (not to mention needing another 256Mb of ram for other programs)

/me repulls out his lawn chair and runs over to M$'s building city and takes a seat and waits for it all to crumble

In 2010, M$ Windows will be a quantum processing emulation layer for a 128-bit mod of a 64-bit hack of a 32-bit patch to a 16-bit GUI for an 8-bit operating system written for a 4-bit processor from a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.

Those minimum requirements are just for the alpha release though. The alpha version of Windows XP(whistler) also required extremely high requirements. I expect the final release to be around 800mhz p3 and 256mb of ram. However, i definately won't buy it because by then i'll have kde 4 and gnome 2.8 which will look better than longhorn and preform better.

option94:, very nice, ill be laughing at that for some time this day

liquidtenmilion:, yea i know i don't want to buy (or use) windows on my home computer again, but still.. even if it is in development those are extremely high numbers (but to be fair linux does require a high amount of ram to, but thats only if you plan to be using a lot of programs at once, and videos, and games and all the such..... i just don't see how anyone (even if it is in development) can even suggest a "recommended" gig of ram just to use a OS

Imagine trying to do something that takes up a lot of power, like ripping DVD's and encoding them, playing games like America's Army or Half-Life (Day of Defeate, of course), or 3d Studio Max! Wow, that thing's gotta be crawling on those systems. The computers I have in my house right now:

1.7Ghz w/ 512MB memory
2.4Ghz w/ 512MB memory
2.8Ghz w/ 512MB memory

As you can see, I would only have 2 computers that meet the minimum, none of which come to the "recommended"

To be fair, Longhorn isn't supposed to be released until 2006.

And HDTV was supposed to be the standard by 2005. Now "experts" are projecting it won't be until 2009....