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bkeating 05-18-2003 07:20 PM

Longhorn
 
What do you think/know Longhorn will bring on and introduce ? What type of impact will it make on the slow (but sucessfull converts from Windows to GNU/Linux)?


from the screen shots it seems their adding a lot of already existing tools and applets that KDE and GNome have had for a LONG time...


What are the free software developers doing to hold there ground if anything?

Franklin 05-18-2003 07:44 PM

I think being able to read and write to the new file system (from linux, of course) will be an issue. I'm not a programer tho so I don't know from diddly.

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from the screen shots it seems their adding a lot of already existing tools and applets that KDE and GNome have had for a LONG time...
I loved in the article that I read how these enhacements will require "significant hardware upgrades"

hmmm.

d33pdream 05-18-2003 09:08 PM

yea, like there email applet and other desktop items... totally need a geforce 5 for that stuff :) oh and windows media player 9

Whitehat 05-18-2003 09:31 PM

Longhorn will have a new file system (Not NTFS or FAT32 or anything from the past). It will have a sidebar type thing. From what I've seen, it looks pretty cool. I personally think Windows XP Pro is a kick butt OS. If Longhorn is like XP, but better it will go far.

Unfortunately, regardless of what you think, Microsoft OS's will always be around, and will always be the OS of the majority.

Check out www.winsupersite.com to check out Longhorn stuff.

Peace...

rufius 05-18-2003 09:47 PM

To my knowledge, the file system on Longhorn will be database-based, meaning to say the file system will be remote or at least thats what I remember reading. So with that said, you wouldn't really be able to write to the WinFS partition unless you had a way to tell it you were a Windows computer using Longhorn. I think it will probably annoy people when they find out they have to pay to use the filesystem because its partly integrated with some servers that M$ runs and they charge a fee for the use. That may divert some MS users to move to Linux. Microsoft is taking for granted the fact that they believe they gained popularity by people buying their software, but really there are more illegal users than legal users using pirated MS software. This is what made them big, not the fact that people bought their software, so when they find a way to keep people from copying their software and using pirated versions, people will move to the next best thing, that being Mac/Linux. I think the next 2 years will be the demise of Microsoft seeing as they're trying to take over every software market there is, programming, multimedia development, gaming, etc. The next decade should be an interesting plummet of the worlds most powerful software vendor.

MasterC 05-19-2003 01:09 AM

Although I'd really really like to agree, I don't. I think money gets you alot further than one would think. I think Bill will be able to carry the company along through any rough times, pretty much swoon every major corp into some crappy new release, and still have a strong hold around the throat on the OS market. I think it'll break up more, but not nearly come it it's demise. If Linux got 20 % of the desktop market I would be shocked. But that's just my skepticism talking. Trust me, I'd love to see it happen.

Cool

tyccea 10-24-2003 06:26 AM

We'll see what happens with LSB...or so I listened in an irc room. If enough people work on LSB, then Linux-compatible standardization could take off at an incredible rate. This includes hardware vendors releasing code or making LSB-standard drivers.

Gill Bates 10-24-2003 07:21 AM

i would really like to see a linux desktop looking as nice as a windows one cos longhorn does look like a breath of fresh air :)

Megamieuwsel 10-24-2003 07:50 AM

"A breath of fresh air"?
Looks more like Mattell breathing down your neck.....
But then again ; to each his own....

crashmeister 10-24-2003 08:57 AM

Palladium - cool.

Pcghost 10-24-2003 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by crashmeister
Palladium - cool.
LOL.:D

I hear the filesystem is XML-based in longhorny. I wonder what that will mean for security. Good or bad? I don't like the additional fluff and all, but as long as they allow the user to turn it off I am sure it will sell. I have found my OS (except for gaming) and have no intention of paying MS for another version of Windows.:twocents:

darthtux 10-24-2003 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by Franklin

I loved in the article that I read how these enhacements will require "significant hardware upgrades"

I'm sure everyone is going to go out and buy a new computer to have Bill's latest OS. The suckers will. Not me. I don't use windows now.

Gill Bates 10-24-2003 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by darthtux
I'm sure everyone is going to go out and buy a new computer to have Bill's latest OS. The suckers will. Not me. I don't use windows now.
but by then M$ will have something in place telling other software producers that they have to produce only for longhorne :rolleyes: good bye sweet games :mad:

is wine in danger with new patent laws? getting back on topic, the new FS comming with longhorn, will it be illegal for non-MS os's to read and write to it?

darthtux 10-24-2003 05:52 PM

I don't care for games on the computer (except the tile ones that come with Linux :) ). So gaming issues will not affect me. Love that Nintendo.

I may be wrong but I don't think it could be illegal to read and write to a filesystem. If so, then Microsoft would have done it with NTFS and FAT. As long as you don't use their code there's nothing they can do.

Skyline 10-24-2003 07:04 PM

.......... for anyone whose interested......... where is Windows going?

http://www.pcmag.com/print_article/0...=109987,00.asp


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