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Old 04-07-2005, 01:58 AM   #1
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linux troll


Well found this:
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<dm> I discovered that you'd never get an answer to a problem from Linux Gurus by asking. You have to troll in order for someone to help you with a Linux problem.
<dm> For example, I didn't know how to find files by contents and the man pages were way too confusing. What did I do? I knew from experience that if I just asked, I'd be told to read the man pages even though it was too hard for me.
<dm> Instead, I did what works. Trolling. By stating that Linux sucked because it was so hard to find a file compared to Windows, I got every self-described Linux Guru around the world coming to my aid. They gave me examples after examples of different ways to do it. All this in order to prove to everyone that Linux was better.
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<dm> brings a tear to my eye... :') so true..
<dm> So if you're starting out Linux, I advise you to use the same method as I did to get help. Start the sentence with "Linux is gay because it can't do XXX like Windows can". You will have PhDs running to tell you how to solve your problems.
<dm> this person must be a kindred spirit of mine
I'm just wondering what you guys think, do you guys think that this is true? And if yes, can anything be done to change this?
 
Old 04-07-2005, 02:37 AM   #2
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I tend to ignore troll posts unless really bored.
 
Old 04-07-2005, 02:40 AM   #3
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well obviosuly he's wrong about the asking part, but as far as the response to trolling... sometimes yes. It does happen a fair bit when trolls do that. It's basically that many people want to clinically prove that this person is an idiot, and they are totally wrong. and how do you do that? by going in to huge depth about everything theysay is wrong. there have been some impressibly long responses to posts that we'd rather were just ignored.
 
Old 04-07-2005, 03:47 AM   #4
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Yes. Trolling is as old as the internet and the general consensus is that trolling is a negative phenomenon that tends to drive people away, not get them to help or respond positively.
 
Old 04-07-2005, 05:03 AM   #5
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I'd tend to disagree with the above post, it does seem that a troll wil get an answer a lot quicker than someone who simply asks a question, though I'd expect someone who asks a question and also shows they have already done a lot of research towards solving the problem already might get an answer a lot quicker than someone who just says "How do you do X?". However the troller would loose any respect he might have as a person and user of the forums, also in the replies their tends to be quite a lot of abuse and sarcasm
 
Old 04-07-2005, 08:23 AM   #6
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However the troller would loose any respect he might have as a person and user of the forums
I think that such typical end-users don't really care much for respect in the hacker communit(y|ies)--<emphasis>they just want to get the job done</emphasis>. Both in terms of what they want their computer to do, and how to get the help they need.

They would probably benefit from reading http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html; I think we need to tell them. And I think we need to demonstrate that we actually do want to help, so that they actually come back and say "I don't get the man page".

I've never really paid attention to the trolling-for-help.

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--Jonas Kölker
 
  


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