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Old 05-14-2005, 09:45 PM   #1
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linux job query USA


Dear All,

How to get job in USA. I am an indian resident having 1.5+yrs of experience in linux administration.

Any suggestion / guidelines are welcome.


-jack

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Old 05-14-2005, 10:38 PM   #2
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It would be best for you to check some of the job posting sites like monster.com.
 
Old 05-15-2005, 06:12 AM   #3
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This is moved to General as it's not a Linux question (ok, maybe peripherally) and is not technical.

You could also ask at the US embassy. Oh, and check the various immigration websites.
 
Old 05-15-2005, 06:17 AM   #4
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First you have to be accepted and approved to even get into the US, check into that first.... then if that's possible, look at job sites and make sure the jobs your looking at accept Visa's, etc..
 
Old 05-15-2005, 04:53 PM   #5
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I thought all the jobs were going to India...
 
Old 05-15-2005, 05:47 PM   #6
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Nah. Dell pulled its corporate tech support back to the US last year. I guess people in India finally demanded fair wages so it became no cheaper to have their support center there.
 
Old 05-18-2005, 10:49 AM   #7
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I would look at monster or go to linux job sites, there are a few around.
 
Old 05-18-2005, 04:39 PM   #8
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Nah. Dell pulled its corporate tech support back to the US last year. I guess people in India finally demanded fair wages so it became no cheaper to have their support center there.
Actually I heard something on the contrary of why they pulled out. I can care less as I never call techsupport but many of Dell's customers I heard were getting tired of calling to hear deep Indian accents and it was hard for them to understand and communicate when calling for help, so many complained. Makes sense to me but whatcha gonna do.. I know I wouldn't be happy to call for some kind of help only to not be able to understand the person very well I was trying to talk to and explain what's going on, no pun on the Indians but hey, they'd probably feel the same way if they called for help and expected Americans to know their native language fluently....

But that's just what I heard from many of the Dell employee's I know down here in Texas.. since I use to live literally a mile from Dell's headquarters..
 
Old 05-19-2005, 03:05 PM   #9
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I had to call a couple days ago to get a part ordered for one of our dells and I got somebody w/ an Indian accent. It wasn't as deep as I've heard at times so it still could have been on shores. I'm not sure. I've heard another theory as to why they'd bring it back on shore. Since people couldn't understand what the tech was saying they just wouldn't call tech support anymore. They'd have a problem w/ their dell and instead of getting it fixed they'd stay mad at Dell. When it was time to get another one they wouldn't go to dell. They were losing repeat business.
 
Old 05-20-2005, 06:07 PM   #10
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no offense but

I don't want to call some help desk or whatever and not understand what they are saying.

Query for you-
Dear all
How to get job in USA

I did understand that but it
isn't the typical english I am usually around

"Questions about linux jobs" is much more usual
I am only fluent in english, so sorry if it seemed harsh
Also I've never heard a indian person speak so I have no clue what their accent is like
 
Old 05-21-2005, 10:26 PM   #11
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For all,
Thanks all of you for suggestions,

but the problem is that i don't receive any interview call, i think problem is that as i am too far away, it will inccur heavy cost to them if they will conduct telephonic interview for all the applicants. So, they prefer to recruit local people or it might be possible that they only recruite abroad people having more than 5yrs exp.

As i don't have any problem in getting job here(India), i received many good offeres from top notch companies here. So, why i don't receive any call from US companies.

Any suggestion on clarifying my view points are welcome.Please let me know Any good website address which USA people are using from applying job.

Kdr Kane,

Thanks for providing suggestion.

trickykid,

First you have to be accepted and approved to even get into the US, check into that first.... then if that's possible, look at job sites and make sure the jobs your looking at accept Visa's, etc..

Q. How to check "to be accepted and approved to even get into the US"?

Blinker_Fluid

It is true that jobs are moving to india, but not all the jobs

----

And 1 more thing, that i don't have enough funds to move US, but i think if i will get in US , i will be able to get job US becz. they can conduct my interview easily. And i think i will definately crack some interviews from them
So, any idea in getting into US.





-jack

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Old 05-22-2005, 01:19 AM   #12
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So, why i don't receive any call from US companies.
Quite simply, if you are living in India, many US companies probably view you as being too far away. Consider it this way: Suppose you were running a company, and were looking to hire someone. Person "A" has good credentials, and so does Person "B", but "B" lives 8000 miles away. The only way you'd consider "B" would be if no "A" people applied for the job, and that's not likely to happen. What I mean by this is that realistically, hiring person "B" would involve a lot of additional complexity -- firstly, there's a chance that person "B" would expect the company to absorb the relocation costs, which would be significant, especially if the person had a wife/husband and/or kids, In other words, the cost to the company in the first year of hiring "B" would be their salary + relocation costs (which I assume would be tens of thousands of dollars). To illustrate, if the salary for the position was (for example) $45,000 - $50,000, but the relocation costs were another $15,000 or $20,000, the company would need to spend $60,000 to $70,000 in that first year rather than the $45K-50K that had been budgeted. Additionally, there's a risk that the company could spend that money to relocate the employee, but the employee then leaves for another job after only 12 or 18 months. This creates a dilemma for the company: In order to avoid the risk of losing the money to relocate the employee, the company could make their offer of employment conditional upon the employee staying for a certain period of time (say, 3 or 4 years), with the employee paying back the company if he/she left prior to the end of that period. However, if the employee doesn't work out and the company fired him/her, the employee could sue the company and use the agreement as evidence of an implied contract to employ the person for the full term. (Welcome to the US, where anyone can sue anyone else for any reason at all, and ususally does.) Most companies don't want to have to deal with these kinds of issues.

Additionally, at least in the tech industry, it would be necessary for the company to sponsor a foreign national under the H-1B visa program, which more or less means that the company cannot find any US workers with the necessary skill set to fill the position. During the dot com boom, that wasn't too hard to do, but now, post-crash, it's much, much harder to claim because of all the unemployed US workers who found themselves out of work once the bubble burst. (I happened to be one of those people. Unemployment is totally fun for about a week, since all the meetings, deliverables, projects, etc, etc, suddenly vanish, and if you want to drink coffee all day while chatting up the girls at Starbucks, you can, but you realize pretty quickly that even though your income has stopped, the bills haven't, and suddenly being unemployed becomes a major buzz kill.)

All together, these conditions put a distant job applicant at a disadvantage. Regardless of whether that's fair or not can be debated, but realistically that's the way things are. Please understand I'm not trying to be negative or to be discouraging, and I wish you the best of luck in your endeavor. If your goal is to work in the US, perhaps a good first step would be to get a job with a US company that has offices in India, and later request a transfer. Good luck and best wishes -- J.W.
 
Old 05-22-2005, 02:11 AM   #13
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AFAIK, Dell pulled only support for hi-end systems back to USA. The problem it seems was lack of training in troubleshooting problems (not the accent). Routine stuff is still in Inida.

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Old 05-22-2005, 09:08 AM   #14
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Oh puhleeze, our politicians keep increasing the number of H1B visas allowed every year. The solution to looking like a greedy corp that sends American jobs oversees is to bring the foreign workers here, problem solved. Just start looking for multi-national outsourcing companies in New Delhi. They'll probably put you on a plane next week.


edit: before someone claims they know what they're talking about. I just compelted an assignment for an American company, outsourced through a multi-national firm, and of the 12 or so people working on it (here in the U.S.) the majority were from India brought here on H1B visas. I'll say again that I just finished the assignment, so please don't tell me how hard it is to bring them over now and how American workers aren't being displaced, because quite frankly I know that, as a fact, to be complete bullshiat.

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Old 05-27-2005, 08:26 PM   #15
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J.W.,

perhaps a good first step would be to get a job with a US company that has offices in India, and later request a transfer.

Thanks J.W. I totally agree with your suggestion. But,

as you said to join a MNC and request a transfer, i am now working in a MNC which is having its office in New York, but they don't transfer anyone from India to USA. Only in rare case they do a transfer just for a project basis, and they transfer only people having experience more than5 yrs, so i am having exp. of 1.5+ yrs.

Thus, they are not going transfer me to USA right now.


So, if have any other idea or suggestion please reply, becz i am very much keen to go to USA.


Thanks again your reply is really helpfull and it is realistic.



-jack
 
  


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