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Old 05-17-2004, 05:57 PM   #1
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Talking Linus response to moronic MS-funded study.


Linus has admitted who actually is the father of Linux. This is funny.
http://www.linuxworld.com/story/44851.htm

Here is the original article claiming he ripped off Linux.
http://www.adti.net/kenarbeit/samiz.release.html

I knew it!!
 
Old 05-17-2004, 06:40 PM   #2
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? where does it say it was funded my MS?
 
Old 05-17-2004, 07:21 PM   #3
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I am not quiet sure how true this story is. Linux is based on Unix and is not a completly alien system. Most people will find the commands very similar.
As for any of this being ms funded. I find that as likely as IBM funding Apple. Correct me if I am wrong about any of this as I would only say I was 99% certain.
 
Old 05-17-2004, 08:01 PM   #4
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HadesThunder: , here i found a article at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/17/adti_linux_fud/
let me quote half a line from it:
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Microsoft confirmed that it provided funding to AdTI after the 'terror' study (also written by Brown),
need i say more?
 
Old 05-17-2004, 08:08 PM   #5
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That is why I wrote that I was only 99% certain
 
Old 05-17-2004, 08:14 PM   #6
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www.slashdot.org is running an thread on it now
 
Old 05-17-2004, 09:45 PM   #7
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Anybody else want more info on this:
http://groklaw.net/
 
Old 05-18-2004, 04:06 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by HadesThunder
Linux is based on Unix and is not a completly alien system.
Surely you mean Minix?

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html

Quote:
Originally posted by Linus Torvalds (but not here, obviously! - http://www.li.org/linuxhistory.php)
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Gcc-1.40 and a posix-question
Message-ID: <1991Jul3.100050.9886@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Date: 3 Jul 91 10:00:50 GMT
Hello netlanders,
Due to a project I'm working on (in minix), I'm interested in the posix
standard definition. Could somebody please point me to a (preferably)
machine-readable format of the latest posix rules? Ftp-sites would be
nice.
 
Old 05-18-2004, 04:25 AM   #9
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This is simply Microsoft paying someone to propigate more FUD, in a way that makes them look cleaner to the press. Really, can you see anyone making this claim independently? This is the same institute that claimed linux helped terrorism...

On an interesting sidenote, the Alexis de Tocqueville institute website seems to have been brought down. Surely by the influx of angry Linux users wanting to send them hate mail. Or maybe an angry Linux cracker. I'd say it's 50/50.

www.adti.net


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Old 05-18-2004, 03:15 PM   #10
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If Linux is not based on Unix then why are most of the commands the same? I have never heard of Minix.
What grounds could this institude have possibly given for the statement "that Linux helps terrorism"?
 
Old 05-18-2004, 03:55 PM   #11
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Minix was created after UNIX was no longer available to universities for educational purposes. It is widely used even now in Operating System classes.
 
Old 05-18-2004, 03:55 PM   #12
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Minix is a Unix 'clone', similar to Linux. It is the system Linus was studying when he decided to write his own "Unix-workalike".

Like Linux, it is not *based on* Unix. It is designed to us the same command syntax as Unix, and to all external appearance *look like* Unix, but the code was developed independently of Unix.
 
Old 05-18-2004, 04:49 PM   #13
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Re: Linus response to moronic MS-funded study.

Quote:
Originally posted by Pcghost
Linus has admitted who actually is the father of Linux. This is funny.
http://www.linuxworld.com/story/44851.htm


"Since then," Torvalds continues, "I've lived a life of subterfuge, always afraid that somebody would find out the truth. I'm actually relieved that it's over, and that the Alexis de Tocqueville Institute has finally uncovered the lie. I can now go back to my chosen profession, the exploration of the fascinating mating dance of the common newt."
 
Old 05-18-2004, 04:54 PM   #14
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Quote:
Originally posted by bulliver
On an interesting sidenote, the Alexis de Tocqueville institute website seems to have been brought down. Surely by the influx of angry Linux users wanting to send them hate mail. Or maybe an angry Linux cracker. I'd say it's 50/50.
<deep, important sounding voice>
What you are witnessing is a phenoma known as the Slashdot effect.

Seriously, just being mentioned on slashdot can send a big enough spike in traffic (non-malicious) to bring down some web servers.
 
Old 05-18-2004, 05:33 PM   #15
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If Linux is not based on Unix then why are most of the commands the same? I have never heard of Minix.
What grounds could this institude have possibly given for the statement "that Linux helps terrorism"?
actually linux has no commands at all, the commands come from the GNU system (there kernel kinda got left in wonderland while linux just came right in, thus why people sometimes say GNU/Linux )

the GNU project (FSF) was set up to make a free clone of the UNIX OS, in my opinion the only really good things they made were glibc, gcc, make, and bash .. almost everything else can easily be replaced) .... like i said above there kernel wasn't really ready (or done), when linux came along it just slid right in and now seems to make some people angry

anyways if you don't like the commands then you can use the "alias" thingy to set up new command imitators, or use functions to group them all up... or if you really want just make your own, you don't have to most of the things there (some programs expect certain programs to be there tho)

the only reasons i can think of is, GNU/Linux is a free (almost, the internet is not free, and niether is CD's, so unless you got a friend you gonna pay, but a lot less mind you)... and it is also a powerful OS (UNIX is powerful, very very very powerful compared to Macro$hit's "caged" OS's (and newer versons called TC OS's)

the other reason they can say that is becasue they are capitalist pigs and will say anything for money (this is really sad actually)

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