Best foreshadowing news so far

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34799790

And it's death will only be hastened if more web developers stop using the damn thing. Youtube obviously uses HTML5 but yea falls back on flash if it is installed. Its a step, but again I hope more follow and just dump it. HTML5 FTW!

Ironically viewing this page and I get this msg too, lol!

Seconded.

Agreed, everything will be happier once it's gone. It was great at first, but has by far been eclipsed at this point.

Why do we have to "Watch the video to find out more"?
uBlock Origin won't let me, and I'm ok with that.

Flash games is what is keeping flash alive. There are so many of them. And no one is going to port them to html5.

But yeah...

Pretty much this. I put my parents on a Linux machine, and after much whining and anger from them, I had to remove and install Win7 all because of some dumbass flash-based poker. Gnash didn't work, and I couldn't find any alternatives. I was even hoping for some Java equivalent, but nope.

I've said before the two things I hate most, are Java and Flash. At least with Java it is a little more platform friendly compared to Flash, and doesn't take as much resources, but still not by much, and at least OpenJDK has a chance of outright replacing Java fully, since most of proprietary Java is just libraries written by certain parties, while Flash is completely closed off, and practically needs to be reversed engineered some way, since I doubt Adobe releases any of the Flash specs openly, or without some kind of non-disclosure clause, or whatever.

Who cares, (besides those who are easily swayed by shitty flash based games) this is still good news. It comes down to the website, if more follow suite I don't see how Adobe will be able to stem the bleeding. Hopefully very very soon, it will join the likes of Silverlight. One can dream.

thirded.

you'd be surprised how much of your web still works after simply uninstalling flashplugin.

and how much more is possible with html5.

incidentally, clicking on the link in the op i got this:

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I still need Flash for Youtube, since HTML5 is just too slow on my older computer. Luckily I have the old Opera with easy controls to switch off the plugins when not wanted -- in my case, when anywhere but Youtube.

Wouldn't installing Google Chrome resolve the Flash issues? Not ideal, I know, but surely not much worse than Windows and they may end up with Chrome anyhow...
As for Java, I don't think I've ever had a single Java web app work in a browser in Linux, ever. Every time I have tried to install the plugins they seem to either cause dependency hell or just not actually work in the browser.


Indeed! I find Bananabread particularly impressive -- being able to play a multi-player FPS in the browser is disconcerting but a little cool too.

Along similar lines: Google seem, finally, to have got around to converting the majority of content to HTML5 in HD and actually hosting it on servers capable of hosting more than 1b/s -- up until recently using HTML5 for me meant stuttering video and 800*600 or similar resolution...

Chrome didn't work either unfortunately.

Well there are works on flash backends for HTML5 that are on the way, so games and the like wont need it even ones buried deep into flash coding
Thats what shumway is doing at least, not sure if google will follow up

It is mightily amusing to me, to listen to the people who spew effusive praise upon a so-called "future" which consists of a pure-graphics "standard" that is entirely dependent on an (of course, assumed ...) source-code delivered execution language, which is entirely separate from it.

"Just give me an 'advertisement' ... that's all I need to inject my bomb into your target."

I've actually had great luck with Java in the last few years. My courses are all java or flash applets for the lectures (about 50-50 depending on course), and have all worked (once you disable all your security controls, which is really funny when taking the security+ course).

Die! Die! Die, Flash!

Good news....but I'm not too optomistic, since it seems that the goal of most mass software these days is to spy and mine data. This is to be expected when such products are provided by for-profit companies for "free"- since their ultimate goal is to make money- and if they don't charge for the product, you know it is because that product is being used to collect data and/or foster advertising.

I'd like to see a move toward such products that we actually pay for, and which in-turmn guard our privacy, and just do what the task that they were ostensibly created to do- or better yet, FOSS alternatives.

But as long as the majority of the general public keep on using WinD'ohs, and remain ignorant as to the workiongs of their computers and devices, I think we will keep seeing things like Flash in different incarnations, as that seems to be the standard business model these days- from social media sites, to oftware, to operating systems. The majority do not care about their privacy- they use their real names online, and will keep the world informed of their most intimate details via Facebook- and those of us who opt-out nad who guard our privacy, are considered the freaks.....

Well personally I dont care if the product is proprietary as long as it can get the job done.
Say what you will about chrome but I think its solution to the issue of flash is the best one yet due to it actually having real world results.
I dont care if its in house flash doesnt support DRM on linux right now but once flash stops being a standard I dont think that will be an issue for long, but it having its own in house version of flash is a small step to solving the issue of flash in general.
Start with what people want for now, use flash and java whatever until it cant be used and phase them out which chrome is doing slowly but surely.
It will be at least another two maybe three years until flash is likely to be killed off, so I am willing to work with what i can to do the results I want.
I still want the ability to watch things like my google play content, so far no other browser on linux has been able to do and it seems like hell will freeze over until Mozilla gets shumway in line and makes DRM content available for linux.
I dont care about DRM right now but I will be there when the inevitable of Mozilla stabbing us in the back for good by killing firefox on linux and making it OSX and windows only due to its approach to DRM.
Meanwhile let Chrome run on my system for as long as possible then find a alternative if a viable one becomes availible, chromium comes close yes but i do use netflix.
its just a sad state of affairs that i trust google more then Mozilla right now, at least with them I know I am getting a poisoned browser, Mozilla just seems to slowly put the arsinic into the drink slow poison as opposed to googles cyanide approach