Greetings.
i'm looking for a suitable alternative to the perversity of Windows XP with which i've a large & deep experience. Naturaly i started selecting Linux Mint,
Zorin, Icefeast, AVLinux, Pure.Dyne and even PC-BSD9.
My overall feeling is that you've to apply all your
patience to bear with os that need 2 or 3 clicks to
start run (please do not think my rigg is old and poorly endowed because definitely is not the case!).
Then, i started to understand: its a sys wrapped within little boxes. All of them claimming for 'passwords' whenever you dare to access them. Its vaguely ridiculous but oh well you have to accept it or leave it. But, once my knowledge of UNIX is only rudimentar...and i was looking for a a new freedom perspective in a stable and effective OS i forced myself to comply.
Until recently i experience an outrageous event, in
a UBUNTU forked distro: whenever i intended to record a DVD the 'Burn' button woul grey out and the
sys would freeze. Could it be possible?!! Such a
highly praised distro, skipping a basic operation
in a prestiged application (K3B), only because it
was a DVD and not the common CD. That was one of the
reasons i was flying away from winblows which managed to qualify my pioneer dvd rw ram drive as a
cdrom only device. No it could not be! Once the said
distro was enriched with wine 1.2 i tried with Infra-Recorder, a burner which claims to work with
Linux+ wine. To my aghasted surprise, suddenly the
proggy declared it could not detect the availability
of a dvd burner device...The very same happened using IMGBurner and Ashampoo Studio5!!! Talk about
conspiracy, people!!!
Would any of you, more experienced guys, advise me
on a really free, independent distro which is not
playing the "politicaly-correct" game imposed by M$?

Would appreciate this info. Thanks for the patience
to read all this boring statement anyway. Regards,
HN

If your Windows and your Linux both have problems with that drive, may it be that it is in fact faulty? I would test that first.
Sorry, but can you please explain what you mean with the last part, I don't understand.

Disregard the quoted part of my post, if you please. That's just a
personal, subjective opinion.

What i would appreciate to acknowledge: your view on the previously
described event -- the similar 'denial of service' event in which
several "different" distros incurred facing the task of burning a
video dvd containing the VIDEO_TS components of a an .avi built dvd
i intended to burn with no results and collecting the same info
reaction and/or notification of greying out the BURN cmd 'button' or, in the case of win32 selected burners, started with the wine layer:"A dvd device was not detected".
Do you find this weird and previously prefetched even in the said Linux distros -- could i be correct assuming that a guide-line on this issue was adhered to by the "policaly-correct" distro producers
Yes or Yes?
And if yes, is there yet any 'desobedient' Linux distro, as far as you know? What might it be? Thanks for your possible good attention this time.
And kind regards,
HN

No, there is no guideline on this on any distro I tried yet, and that were many. That would be not viable, just because not any DVD made from an .avi has to be a pirated copy, it can also be the film of my brothers marriage recorded by me. In short: No, no political correctness here.
Saying that, there are several possibilities why it didn't work:
1. Your hardware (read your burner) is defective.
2. Your film is just to big for the medium you have chosen.
3. The medium is defective.
4. You have used the wrong medium, that happened to me one time, I wasted half a day until I realized that I put a CD into the burner, not a DVD.
5. The medium was already written to or is a not erased RW-medium. Happened to me also.
6. Last, but not least, may be an user error.
If you have the same problem with different distros and also with Windows I doubt that it is a problem with the software.

I had very good luck with it

Salute TObiSGD,

You tried to lend a series of possible impropper performance reasons and, once i think my theme -- while seemingly somewhat paranoid, i grant it -- it's nevertheless worthy to be considered seriously, i'll respond:

1 - No, the harware is not defective: i installed an "expurged" Windows XP version (Tiny Win XP 0.82) and i was able to record the very same dvd formated file in a duly MAXWELL virgin DVD+R (please do not sell me so short, as all that. Yes, a misattentive procedure can happen to anyone ONCE. But as i reported i repeated the essay with several Linux versions (cf. my 1st post), using distinct DVD disks in each attempt.
2 - i'll take, therefore, the liberty to disregard your items #s 3 to 6.
3 - i'll allow myself to call your attention to a list of distros presented by WIKI, characterizing a wide bunch of distros. In this enlisted review, i recall the mention that at least 2 of the distros producers adverted that their dvd handling (playing and/or recording, or both, was disabled.
Now, that made me wonder: WHY ??! Why would the launchers of a version, be so keen to announce a shortcomming such as that?
I will NOT prolong thishere theme. It does not seem to lead anywhere. So i now salute you and bid goodbye.
Regards,
HN
Footnote - By-the-way: i discovered an independent Linux distro (which recorded the very same formated file, in my very same Pioneer DVD R/W device effectively, no-problems flagged out and no-questions asked.
That Distro i'll refrain from nominate here, but will inform anyone interested enough to query me by personal msg.
And yes i also installed Ubuntu Studio but did not fully experimented its performance -- i may report on the issue later on, thankz David.
nrick

+1.

Never disregard #6. User errors happen.

"I'll ask a qusetion, even though I'm saying I dont want to talk about this anymore". O.K. If that floats your boat.

I've NEVER heard of any distro with DVD burning 'disabled' in any way. Its possible, but to believe it I'd like to see a link, not just word of mouth. As for DVD playback, yes, some (most probably) distros dont supply the tools needed to do that on a clean install. Mainly due to possible legal problems over DVDCSS. Its not that hard to add DVDCSS.

Why is this some big secret?

hello cascade9

i took the other senior member for his written "word of mouth",(using your own elegant prose) and answered back politely, i believe. I can see that such style his difficult to follow for you but still, for the sake of your further enlightment on disabled parts in Linux distros, here you have a general Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._distributions (look for the appropriate items, if you ever care to);
As for the ID of the referred independent Linux Distro: of course its not a "big secret"! These big secrets are for nitwits only. And i average THE LARGER (not all, of course, as it can be realized...)percentage of this site members are not 'nitwits'.
My point was that after having denounced several major distros as per 'dvd refusal of burning', i did not want to sound advertising and promoting a specific distro.
Now, please, make a huge effort and TRY to understand that, will you?!...
Greetings and i 'fare thee well' for evermore,
HN

I've never had any real problems with TobiSGds style. If only that was true of all forums posts I've run across, some of them are very confusing.

I dont see what trh point of linking me to a wikipedia page listing distros is meant to do. Maybe it was to backup your assertion that some distros have DVD burning disabled? If that was the idea, I'm not going to look though random pages on random distros.....

Either there was some error, soemwhere, in your burning process (in which case it doesnt really matter much) or else you hit a real problem.

If it was a real problem, then posting the distro you used to get around it would be a good idea. It could possibly be useful to members here, or even random people visting from search engine results.

A 'msg me to find out' post doesnt help anybody.

Bolding 'make a huge effort', the 'if you care to' tacked on the end of the pointless link to wikipedia......I'm not sure I like your tone

Try Ubuntu Studio and DreamLinux and check out these
http://distrowatch.com/search.php?ca...&status=Active
Now please read this again and read this website name and tell me where is logic in this? This website is about discussing ALL Linux'es out there and if it acts as advertisment on side note - who cares? That is the point of this website - make Linux more popular.

Hi,

for what it's worth, I think the OP was referring to 'Xandros Open Circulation Edition'. From the linked Wiki page:

You're not sure?! Well, i am very sure about yours.
You're full of it.
Good grief!...
hn

Mint first comes to mind, but Fedora is easy enough to do as well if you research livna's wiki and follow the link. For the drive, its obviously FUBAR. Try another.

Thankz mdlinuxwolf,

i must return your good will to help and inform that, after an extended research and labour -- installing, essaying and uninstalling -- i came accross with «Kademar Linux», still a 'work-in-progress' but already depicting characteristics of true independence, in the handling of dvd recording with effective straithforwardness, using K3B and my already identified dvd rw drive.
And this i regard as a very probable evidence of prefetched behaviour of the big Linux players on the area of video-dvd burning, i sadly conclude.
Regards,
nrick

It appears to me that the OP only created this thread to vent,
rather than gather knowledge or information. Therefore I'm moving
this over to GENERAL to give it the due exposure.

Oh, and rnick, please don't get personal just because people
try to help you, and they don't have all the background info
that you as the owner already have. Totally uncalled for.



Cheers,
Tink