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Old 08-10-2006, 06:45 AM   #1
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Intel Opensources Graphics Drivers


http://developers.slashdot.org/artic...34254&from=rss

Intel has released it's graphics drivers under the GPL and MIT licenses. What does everyone think this will mean for linux. Obviously there's the added benefit of not having to use binary blobs and to be able to use drivers that have been held to the same developmental standards as the rest of your kernel.
More important though, do people believe that this will lead nVidia and ATI to open source their drivers.
 
Old 08-10-2006, 07:48 AM   #2
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I dont beleive so. I think that since Intel's big market share is in the CPU market, it is simply a way to get open source friendly people to buy Intel's global-warming producing CPUs. BTW, ATI, no longer exists. It is AMD. I am curious what will happen since AMD has their own GPU maker.....
 
Old 08-10-2006, 08:11 AM   #3
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LOL, yeah having heaters in the winter is kind of a moot point when you have an Intel.

When you think about hardware in general though, it's kind of ridiculous what their power requirements are at these days (however, it's a bit of a catch22). I sometimes wonder if a whole new radical change in PSUs is going to eventually be a necessity in order to address the way that CPUs and Video Cards keep demanding more and more power requirements.

I just found out not too long ago that safety standards are for there to be no more than 30 amps on the +12V rail (360 watts). Also that these supposedly dual 12V PSUs are in fact sharing the same 12V rail (true seperate rails multiple 12V outputs is extemely rare is it even existent in the PC PSU market at all). The whole dual 12V rail thing is a marketing gimmick.

Then there is other aspect of efficiency, or lack thereof, which generates more heat and sure doesn't help the power bill.

Sorry for the tangent. As for Intel using this new licensing, I think it's great. I think maybe it shows that Intel realizes that Linux is an important market to tap into and that perhaps they feel it's where more and more good things are going in the future. Personally, I think Linux is a wave of the future even though it's been around for a considerable time. I think it's one of those things that just keep gaining more and more momentum as time goes one. I think mostly because of the GPL. If it wasn't for the concepts of GPL and open source behind it, I don't think Linux would have still been around like it's doing now. Look at how many other great proprietary OSes that are long gone. I bet if they had been open source or had some license similar to GPL, they would probably would have been alive and well today. Afterall, for instance, the only way Linux could ever die is if nobody no longer had any interest in using and developing it. That just isn't going to happen. The GPL is a good example of a license that makes something practically undefeatable.

How much you want to bet that Microsoft hate that anyone ever created the concept of GPL. Linux will always be a thorn in their side thanks to it. Not only that, but I bet that in the back of their minds they grit their teeth when they stop and think about how every day how many users they lose because they can't keep them under their thumb thanks to a great and unstoppable alternative existing like Linux.

Anyway, it goes to show you that Intel is starting to realize just how relevent and important Linux is as a market. If other hardware companies are smart, they will too. Alot can change very fast in the PC industry and those that get complacent and are unwilling to see the writing on the wall get buried. One only needs to look at the last decade of history to see this demonstrated time and time again. I think perhaps Intel is smart enough to know better now. Time will see.

Nvidia may be unwilling to change their current stance when it comes to open source, but you can safely bet that if they keep on that path that it will eventually come back to bite them in the ass. They're not invincible even though they're a big player right now. No commercial entity ever is. That's kind of the crux of it though, ultimately commercial driven projects are much more vulnerable to crashing than non-commercial ones.

The fact that Nvidia is such a big player in the 3D graphics market really is a good example of what I'm talking about. Their first implementations into the consumer 3D graphics market were abysmal and probably one of the worst. Anyone remember the NV1 chipset? I didn't think so. Well, around that time is when 3Dfx took off and became the giant. They were bought up a long time ago, by guess who, Nividia. Isn't that a good lesson. It goes to demonstrate that if a commercial company gets too high on themselves that it just leaves the door open for someone else to come up and snatch the crown.

This gets me to wonder if there is a chance that Intel could end up being the next generation's king of 3D graphics. I have a feeling that is their plans and that they're banking on using this new strategy of embracing open source and GPL etc.

Another interesting thing is how Bill Gates is leaving Microsoft. Even though I not a big fan of Bill I do know that he is quite intelligent when it comes to business. He didn't get where he is by being stupid. A smart business man (or thief, depending upon your outlook) knows when to get out and not be the man left holding the bag.

Anyway, needless to say, I do believe strongly that Microsoft is slowly on it's way out and Linux is on it's way in. I'm not saying that Linux is a matter of being in or out since it's actually kind of irrelevent to it's success due to how it's licensing was set up, but I'm more saying that I think we're going to eventually see it as ending up being the OS that is on the majority of desktops. It's going to take awhile, but all signs say it's heading that way.

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Old 08-10-2006, 10:42 AM   #4
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This gets me to wonder if there is a chance that Intel could end up being the next generation's king of 3D graphics.
I'm with you on this one. Intel have been working on some considerably more advanced graphics chips than their current offering which a lot of people believe helped fuel the ATi takeover by AMD.
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I do believe strongly that Microsoft is slowly on it's way out and Linux is on it's way in. I'm not saying that Linux is a matter of being in or out since it's actually kind of irrelevent to it's success due to how it's licensing was set up, but I'm more saying that I think we're going to eventually see it as ending up being the OS that is on the majority of desktops. It's going to take awhile, but all signs say it's heading that way.
Nah, I don't think so. I don't think that is going to happen for a long time if ever but I don't see that as a problem. Lots of people just want to turn their computer on and do mindless crap with it and not ever have to worry about configs or anything. Windows caters to them great, linux doesn't. Linux is an alternative, not a replacement. oneandoneis2 has a great article that spends pages on that very point.

I do however think that a few major companies are seeing linux as a real alternative rather than something only fat hackers use in their basement next to the fridge filled with Coke and other caffeinated drinks. If linux gets evem semi-serious support from hardware vendors then software-vendors will follow and then we will have won. Not to the the replacement Windows, I don't think that was or is the goal of Linus or anyone else heavily involved (read: kernel dev) but to be recognised as a real OS that deserves to be supported in its own right? Well I think that would go down very nicely.
 
Old 08-10-2006, 03:28 PM   #5
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I can't help but wonder what effect this might have on the Xgl project and other such 3d projects. With an opensource 3d graphics card will this facilitate Xgl in developing a standard that makes Ati, Nvidia happier?
 
Old 08-10-2006, 05:10 PM   #6
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How much you want to bet that Microsoft hate that anyone ever created the concept of GPL. Linux will always be a thorn in their side thanks to it.
Microsoft is just bitter because the GPL makes Linux un-pirateable
 
  


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