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Old 11-02-2003, 01:55 AM   #16
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agreed, on every point you've made.

Wow, you are incredibly right on the money, can't say as I could have expressed it any better. And yet, you must admit, windows is just no challenge anymore...

ps: apparently, in addition to the word processors, the email clients have no spell checking either, hehe.
kmail has spell checking as well as open office.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 01:57 AM   #17
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whew!, wow, the rhetoric grows thick...

I'm sorry, linux people, can you be honest? I've been a linux lover for quite a few years, yet I'll be the first to admit it's not all smooth sailing. Alfred is right on the money, I have 7 machines (yes that's seven) running on my home network, all sorts of linux distros at various levels (several machines are tri-booting linux distros), both wired and wireless connections behind 2 hardware firewalls, and you know what? He's right. I have to xkill things daily. I have to overlook stuff that doesn't work because I just don't have time right now to get to it, I have to rely on my years as an assembly and C programmer to understand things that are under the hood (just like windows). I see similarities between Linux and Windows architectures. Folks, it's ok.

Competition benefits us all, Linux may require more knowledge than the "average" user posesses, it's ok. Personally, I prefer Linux right now because it *appears* to be more secure, when Linux has a reasonable market share, then we shall see, in the meantime, it's certainly a very interesting OS with a very vocal and helpful online community, and certainly if it's not your cup of tea, then the OS with over 90% market share is waiting for you.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:01 AM   #18
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whew!, wow, the rhetoric grows thick...

I'm sorry, linux people, can you be honest? I've been a linux lover for quite a few years, yet I'll be the first to admit it's not all smooth sailing. Alfred is right on the money, I have 7 machines (yes that's seven) running on my home network, all sorts of linux distros at various levels (several machines are tri-booting linux distros), both wired and wireless connections behind 2 hardware firewalls, and you know what? He's right. I have to xkill things daily. I have to overlook stuff that doesn't work because I just don't have time right now to get to it, I have to rely on my years as an assembly and C programmer to understand things that are under the hood (just like windows). I see similarities between Linux and Windows architectures. Folks, it's ok.

Competition benefits us all, Linux may require more knowledge than the "average" user posesses, it's ok. Personally, I prefer Linux right now because it *appears* to be more secure, when Linux has a reasonable market share, then we shall see, in the meantime, it's certainly a very interesting OS with a very vocal and helpful online community, and certainly if it's not your cup of tea, then the OS with over 90% market share is waiting for you.
once again. you want me to make your experience mine. yes, honestly i haven't had any friggin' problems with linux. so now i guess i'm not honest about it. give me a break.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:02 AM   #19
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what is xkill, in my 4-5 years experiance on 6 systems (1 short of you) I have never used it, I have used kill and killall, but only when beta testing highly experimental stuff, or mplayer daily, but mplayer isn't linux, then again xwindows isn't linux, hell the login isn't linux :-D only the kenel is linux, do you ever lock up on boot (pre-login) without hardware / etting errors? i havn't.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:09 AM   #20
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1. I can see your point, but I still think you're full of sh*t.
2. I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to
pronounce.
3. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in
public.

5. This is you akaBeaVis: I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to see it my way.

6. You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.

7. Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point
of view.

8. The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.

9. Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.

10. Sarcasm is just one more service we offer.

11. If I throw a stick, will you leave?

12. Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.

these all fit this thread --- BOTH SIDES OF IT

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Old 11-02-2003, 02:10 AM   #21
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nope, no lockups, ever. so what.

I'm asking linux users to admit that they have things that don't work on some machine somewhere like me, everything works in your neck of the woods? got a plustek scanner?
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:11 AM   #22
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nope, no lockups, ever. so what.

I'm asking linux users to admit that they have things that don't work on some machine somewhere like me, everything works in your neck of the woods? got a plustek scanner?
can't admit what isn't true. got an hp scanner which works perfectly fine. what you want is for everyone to be like you which isn't gonna happen. i'm not like you, the hardware i have might not be what you're using so why do feel that every linux user will have your experience.

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Old 11-02-2003, 02:11 AM   #23
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who claimed everything works in linux, it doesn't, same goes for windows, try using a moterola processor in windows and you will see that a scanner is not the end fo the world.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:17 AM   #24
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spaz,
last time I checked I have never actually addressed you directly, so where does "once again" come from? and... no where have I stated that every linux user must have had my own experiences, so once again, why the excessive defense mechanism? Did I target you? did I ask you anything personally?
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:19 AM   #25
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I'm asking linux users to admit that they have things that don't work on some machine somewhere like me,
i guess i'm not a linux user.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:21 AM   #26
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I'm sorry, linux people, can you be honest?
i guess i'm not linux people here too. maybe read what you post.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:22 AM   #27
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akaBeaVis: you may not have addressed him specifically but you did open yourself up to all the trouble and then some, you don't call an entire community a group of liers in there own territory. it is almost as though you are asking for a beating and complainign when you get it.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:23 AM   #28
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thank God you've found the quote thing, it really lends credibility to your posts, I read just fine, perhaps when you can afford more hardware you may find some things that don't work with linux, it's not a slam against linux, it's just reality.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:25 AM   #29
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so rich people hate linux? that makes sence looking at bill gates, that hardly makes you credible though. youve gone from complaining to insulting. you are becomming outnumbered, even those who support your points will no longer support you, or so I would imagine, no proof no credibility here, don't need it, you make my point for me, if not technical than personality wise (lack there of?)
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:27 AM   #30
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thank God you've found the quote thing, it really lends credibility to your posts, I read just fine, perhaps when you can afford more hardware you may find some things that don't work with linux, it's not a slam against linux, it's just reality.
what an asshead. and obviously you don't read fine. and if you did your homework and bought hardware that was linux compatible, you wouldn't have hardware that didn't work in linux.
 
  


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