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Old 10-03-2004, 07:02 PM   #1
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if any1 has a reason to hate MS.. its me ! (RANT)


(BEGIN RANT)

FORKING DEATH POTATOES OF HELL !!!!

ok... before... it was funny in a SICK kind of a way !
but now im -->this<-- close to opening up a swirling vortex and sucking nottingham (along with my pc) into the bowels of h3ll !

so... windowsXP was dead... but it had run with few problems for a while.. then developed the corrupt system32/config/system that seems very common (search google)

so.. unable to fix it, i decided to re-install windowsXP..

so here's how the better part of my sunday went....

Backup all work and stuff... managed to salvage some favorites web links and email addresses blah blah blah...

now... some1 point out to me where i went wrong...

Format the Harddrive... insert windowsXP, rewboot from CD.
follow all the instructions.. blah blah blah... its finished... and booted.

Install USB Scanner...
"you cant use this device untill you reboot.. reboot now ?: NO !"

Install USB digital camera..
"you cant use thiss till you reboot.. reboot now ?: NO !"

Install USB web cam
"reboot ? :NO !"

Install Word perfect Office 2000

Install AVG virus scanner for windows XP
Reboot ?: Yes...

Rebooting.........
BSOD !!!!!!

MULTIPLE_IRP_COMPLETE REQUESTS...

windows Xp BSODED to rpevent damage to your machine...

and now i can only boot in safe mode !

WHY ME !!!!!!

always me !

im a second year computer cience degree student !

i can do trigonometry in more than 3 dimensions....

i can compile an entire linux distro (LFS) from scratch... drivers kernel software and all....

so why oh why oh why can i not install a ms product, and make it work for more than a week !

so..... here's the deal... one of you guys tells me how to fix this (WITHOUT a reinstall) and i wont summon a 18ft demon to bend bill gates over its knee and give him a spanking .
 
Old 10-03-2004, 07:42 PM   #2
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Maybe you could summons robin hood and he could take care of bill for you, LOL.
 
Old 10-03-2004, 07:50 PM   #3
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I'm pretty sure that anytime in Windows you are told to restart you should because it means whatevery you installed/did modified some important system files and/or settings.

Not sure if you can fix it without reinstalling. Everytime I've ever had a major problem with Windows, I find that it's a lot faster to reformat and reinstall it than to try to fix it.
 
Old 10-03-2004, 08:21 PM   #4
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Re: if any1 has a reason to hate MS.. its me ! (RANT)

Quote:
Originally posted by qwijibow
(BEGIN RANT)

and i wont summon a 18ft demon to bend bill gates over its knee and give him a spanking .
I've got a leather whip you can use.............
but I'm sure bill loves being spanked with a mink whip.................
 
Old 10-03-2004, 08:21 PM   #5
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It seems to me if you make so many changes that asked for a reboot and didn't do it, you've shot yourself in the foot when it comes to troubleshooting. Did you try booting with all your USB devices disconnected? You could check to see if there are specific updates for your motherboard available. Did you install any service packs? Did you try the last known good configuration?
A lot of people take the same position j_r does, but with XP it's seldom necessary - that attitude is a holdover from the days of Win9x.
 
Old 10-04-2004, 05:19 AM   #6
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feck !

all the message box said was that i couldnt use the webcam till i had rebooted.... it didnt say whats its absolutly vital to the ongoing survival of my system !!!

it seems i CAN boot in safe mode... or with all the usb devices de-activated in the hardware manager.. but the only reason windows is installed is because Linux doesnt support One of my digital camera's.
 
Old 10-04-2004, 06:10 AM   #7
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A lot of people take the same position j_r does, but with XP it's seldom necessary - that attitude is a holdover from the days of Win9x.
his is the right approach, the system needs to be reinstalled (and reformatted, which mean bye bye everything on the hard drive) at least once a year (normal maintenance), and problems are usually faster to just reinstall (as windows doesn't like or want you to know hoe to (unless you paid to sit in a room for a few hours, take a test, and pay more money to get "certified"), or fix anything for that matter ....

and windows needs to because because the needed drivers for the device are not loaded, and require it to be reboot before it can happen (same goes with linux, but if create the drivers as modules, you could just load/reload the modules without rebooting)
 
Old 10-04-2004, 06:46 AM   #8
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his is the right approach
OK, this is probably not the right place to go over this, but that is not the right approach. It is the approach to take when you're too lazy or pushed for time to solve the problem properly. I have administered large networks of 2000 and XP machines, and I can assure you these problems can be solved without some magic knowledge only gleaned from certification exams. Windows may not have the source code available, but it's not like there are NO diagnostics or tools available. It takes time to learn how Linux works, the same is true of Windows - operating systems are not simple any more. Claims like yours (like the rubbish about the exams) just make linux pushers sound paranoid or uneducated. If you can't make a valid point without making stuff up, it's better not to make it.

And qwijibow, I didn't say you have to reboot every time it whinges, I just said you've made troubleshooting a lot more difficult. It would be like if I posted here saying "I installed linux and everything was great until I installed four different software packages and some new hardware drivers, and now the kernel panics!". You still didn't mention whether booting up with none of the devices installed works. if disabling USB devices in the task manager allows you to boot successfully, it's a pretty safe bet one of those drivers is responsible - have you tried removing them one by one? Did you install any motherboard-specific USB updates (or are there some you didn't install?)
 
Old 10-04-2004, 08:04 AM   #9
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i can boot in safe mode... or i can boot normally if i deactivate the digital camera in the hardware manager.
but like i said... the only reason windows is still on my system is because the Linux driver for this camera is still "experimental"

uninstalling the driver and re-installing (with a re-boot evvery time im offered one) does not fix the problem.

any ideas ?
 
Old 10-04-2004, 08:31 AM   #10
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It may be that the driver is a little experimental under Windows, too
I assume the system boots fine with the driver uninstalled (before you reinstall it). Have you tried disabling AVG before installing the driver? I have seen bluescreens due to virus scanners (in some damned unlikely situations too). Have you checked for a more recent driver from the manufacturer (if you installed software from a CD)?
 
Old 10-04-2004, 09:25 AM   #11
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The quickest solution to this is, as I discovered, to get a USB card reader to get your pictures under Linux. If your camera is seriously all you need windows for, then take this step and forget it for good.

Your camera may be supported eventually, and the hassle of taking out the memory card every once in a while isn't much compared to reinstalling windows every week
 
Old 10-04-2004, 10:37 AM   #12
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i tried installing things in a different order and now windows boots fine....
thanks for the surgestions though..

As for the card reader.. unfortunatly its minni camera that uses built in memory... no removable cards. (it even charges the battery through USB)

so no reader is available.
 
  


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