I like global warming.

primo · 09-13-2005, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by danimalz
Don't worry about OPEC freezing oil supplies. They simply would not dare to. The greater problem is that there is dizzyingly growing demand, and at some point in the near future, demand will far exceed supplies. The resulting prices will force change. You will see the attitudes of people change. Nuclear energy wont be so bad, alternatives will be profitable, and all will be well.

Nuke engines in each car?
Nuclear energy clean?
Oh no.

Trains and subt's solve the problem of traffic / oil in cities. In Caracas, at the peak hours, only cars with +1 persons are allowed to use a side way with less traffic. 80% are used by just one person. Some fundamental change in our ways could solve it better. Still, hybrid cars is the intermediate solution now between oil and some clean & cheap source of energy.

stabile007 · 09-14-2005, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by danimalz
Don't worry about OPEC freezing oil supplies. They simply would not dare to. The greater problem is that there is dizzyingly growing demand, and at some point in the near future, demand will far exceed supplies. The resulting prices will force change. You will see the attitudes of people change. Nuclear energy wont be so bad, alternatives will be profitable, and all will be well.

Trust me if OPEC wanted to make a point they could (and in my opnion would) freeze oil shippin gto whomever they want. They already did it once.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

OPEC is nearly nothing more then terrorist whose goal is to hold the entire world hostage while achieving their own political goals. If OPEC raises prices what can we do? Say bad OPEC. And thats about it. If OPEC cuts off shipments what can we do? Not much unless we deicde to invade every single OPEC nation and put in place a "freindly" government (which IMO does not sound like a bad idea) we need them a hell of a lot more then they need us.

Emerson · 09-14-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by stabile007
Not much unless we deicde to invade every single OPEC nation and put in place a "freindly" government (which IMO does not sound like a bad idea) we need them a hell of a lot more then they need us.

This raises another question. Who owns the global resources? Mankind? I single nation? A single oil lord?

stabile007 · 09-14-2005, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Emerson
This raises another question. Who owns the global resources? Mankind? I single nation? A single oil lord?

Currently a couple of countries right now. In today's world whoever controls the land the oil is coming from owns the oil.

Emerson · 09-14-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by stabile007
Currently a couple of countries right now. In today's world whoever controls the land the oil is coming from owns the oil.

Simple-mindedness. Didn't expect that.

stabile007 · 09-14-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by Emerson
Simple-mindedness. Didn't expect that.

Well thats just how it is in today's world. I mean we can sit here and debate all day on how an ideal world would work and what not but it would be all speculation and opinion but has little bearing on the world. What can I say we are a very simpleminded world.

alred · 09-14-2005, 02:42 PM

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by bushidozen

As I stated before, it is our mindset which needs to change first if we are to realize any serious results. Those who want to change need to implement changes now. Those who do not want to change should at least be open to the possibility of change. Sure many people in the world need vehicles to transport themselves and goods. Many people need large houses to accomodate many people. And many people need air conditioning in summer and heating in winter. Still, living here in Las Vegas, I am surrounded by the personifications of excess. Stretch [insert name of popular SUV here] multi-million dollar houses for singles, people who, when it's 80 degrees outside crank their thermometers to 65 because "it's too hot". We are surrounded by materialism, be it physical (new car; new house), verbal ("You are SOOO cool, I wish I were like you!), or mental ("That person's right: I AM cool!). I must admit though, at times it can be difficult to resist the temptation.

...I am trying though.

dont be too hard on yourself in a place like yours ...

flysideways · 09-17-2005, 01:17 PM

http://www.techcentralstation.com/091605JP.html

Still no takers on the sources?

primo · 09-17-2005, 01:21 PM

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...icle312997.ece

flysideways · 09-18-2005, 09:03 AM

Surely someone can tell me roughly how much a Coronal Mass Ejection increases the baseline temperature of the earth as we absorb direct or near hits.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...inexplodes.htm

slapNUT · 09-20-2005, 01:04 AM

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Posted by trickykid
I'm not personally attacking you but you seem like the narrow minded person and people I know who just don't care, they care more about keeping the inside of their car clean by throwing the trash out the window instead of holding onto it til they can actually put it in a trash can.

Wow that surely sounds personal to me. Everyone who isn't worrying about global warming is a litter bug?

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And what's the matter with a little worrying about the future of our planet, what's it going to harm you by others actually caring? Why do the people who care less and ignore any type of warning sign get defensive when some person cares what others do to the planet we all live on in fact, not just you.

Actually tricky it's just the opposite. The global warming group want to beat the rest of us over the head with their self righteous I love the planet more than you crap! Like we don't care about our planet because we don't believe their fabricated numbers.

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Posted by Kirmonkey
A good poiont to think about from here may be why there is such focus from politicians and the media on this particular issue?

Global warming is just a filler for the media. They churn out them stories by the dozens and store them for "slow news days" i.e. no plane crashes, sex scandals or hate crimes to report on, ok lets insert a global warming story and maybe fire up some extreme environmentalist.

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We know about Solar and Wind power, how come its not being used more often? Well, blame companies like Exxon and their buddy Bush in office, or Enron for that matter, one of the biggest contributors to Bush's campaign. It's all about money, they decieve the stupid Americans into thinking they need all and such things to make their life better when really we don't need most of these things.

You are blaming Bush because you don't have solar panels on your house?

Personally, if you haven't guessed I'm not impressed with global warming, but I think my next car will be a hybrid. I'm buying a new 95% efficient modulating furnace within a month. I like to use fans in the summer months just because it keeps the kids outside playing instead of in front of the TV. The difference between me and an extremest environmentalist is I don't try to force other people to live as I do. And yes the extremist do, e.g. vandalizing SUV's.

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posted by bushidozen
I would not like to see the solar flare that might produce...

What solar flare? If every nuclear bomb and every nuclear power plant on earth simultaneously exploded it would not produce a fraction of the energy in a small solar flare.

floppywhopper · 09-20-2005, 02:44 AM

Slapnut said
Global warming is just a filler for the media. They churn out them stories by the dozens and store them for "slow news days" i.e. no plane crashes, sex scandals or hate crimes to report on, ok lets insert a global warming story and maybe fire up some extreme environmentalist.

Have to agree with that....
I had to attend a large bushfire, we were there all day slaving away to put the damm thing out, the TV crews showed up took some pics
but the story they ran that night was totally focussed on some environmentalist going on about mismanagement by the govt dept responsible for the patch of bush on fire. Now while I dont work for that dept and have no liking for them either, the TV item made my blood boil as the environmentalist just spewed a load of s**t.

The fire was started by an arsonist but the dept was made the scapegoat.
These so-called environmentalists go on about how they love the bush, the land, animals etc etc but we never see them in uniform to save the bush when its dying on a 40 degree C day, with 30 knot winds in a raging bushfire.

No - they will chain themselves to a tree to save it from being logged but won't show up at a fire to put it out, no they leave that to the farmers and us bush-firefighters who they slander by calling us murderers.

And the so-called Greenie on the TV, he used to belong to the local communist party, yeah right - Green ! more like pink.

floppy

davholla · 09-20-2005, 04:35 AM

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Originally posted by danimalz
Oxygen remains at 20% of the atmosphere despite being a highly reactive (reducing) element.

It is actually an oxidising element. Do you know any science ?

primo · 09-20-2005, 02:40 PM

Global warming media filler? Oh my God...

Man, wake up to the real world. Stop seeing TV and suspend wishful thinking. Get real...

bushidozen · 09-20-2005, 07:31 PM

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posted by slapNUT
What solar flare? If every nuclear bomb and every nuclear power plant on earth simultaneously exploded it would not produce a fraction of the energy in a small solar flare.

Umm...no offense, but, how do you know?