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View Poll Results: How do you rank global warming on your priority list.
I'm a friggin bleeding heart liberal! I bleed when my planet bleeds!!! 9 12.68%
I'm a concerned liberal. If an aborted fetus does not chill within 20min. of abortion then the planet is too warm! 8 11.27%
I live in California/Texas/Florida I really don't care! Just keep growing crops so I can eat after I surf/ride/boogie till midnight. 6 8.45%
I live in Europe and I hate the USA and think everything is because of the USa and Bush. We are so much better than you! 26 36.62%
I'm a REPUBLICAN! Any questions? I thought not! 22 30.99%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-16-2005, 02:23 AM   #1
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I like global warming.


I live in the midwest and our winters are much milder lately, very rarely does it go below -20F. We havent had a blizzard since 1978. So to me global warming is good stuff.

How do you rank global warming on your priority list?
 
Old 08-16-2005, 02:45 AM   #2
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Yeah, I should be more concerned about global warming, but I too am in the midwest and could tolerate an average 40 degrees higher in all seasons. Well...almost.
 
Old 08-16-2005, 02:45 AM   #3
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The last time the Earth was substantially warmer than it is now, there were dinosaurs roaming it.

That should make it clear exactly why we should worry about global warming. We've all seen Jurassic Park, after all!
 
Old 08-16-2005, 03:25 AM   #4
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Well, at least on theory I've heard predicts that if the icecaps melt, the cold water could eventuallly have such a disruptive influence on the Gulfstream that it could trigger an iceage here in Europe.
So one man's gain is another man's loss, I guess. But don't worry, if it ever comes to that I'm sure all us Europeans will be more than happy to move to America. That's apparantly what you want
 
Old 08-16-2005, 03:43 AM   #5
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This poll is stupid and your choices are asinine. Take this for example:
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I'm a friggin bleeding heart liberal! I bleed when my planet bleeds!!!
This choice, in its very nature, seethes with bias.
Not only that, but the actual effects of global warming are far more serious than an increase in temperature of 40 degrees, though, that is the start of it. To see for yourself, see the following links:
http://www.pewclimate.org/global-warming-basics/
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1848/global.html
http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/pr/03/root18.html
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=...global+warming
http://www.google.com/search?q=effec...global+warming
 
Old 08-16-2005, 05:16 AM   #6
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I agree with scuzzman 110%. And no, I didn't read his links (yet). I agree because it's an issue not to be treated with superficiality. I live in Eastern Europe and I remember 15-20 years ago we had some really cold winters, when -20 - -25 degrees Celsius were not unusual temperatures and snow was abundent. Now, we get -15C quite rare and just a few snowy days per winter. Also, during summer, the temperatures exceed 32C in most of the days, thing that didn't happen a few years ago.
This is the situation not only in my country, but throughout most of Europe.
And think at the generations that will come after us, what will they face? The human body is adaptive to external ambient changes, but not at the rate they occur in present. We get at least two dozen people dead per year due to heat and I hear the same thing happens in many countries. Are you willing to joke any further on this matter?
Maybe if the peoples could somehow see in the future, let's say 30 years from now, they'd understand better what this global warming is really about.
 
Old 08-16-2005, 05:47 AM   #7
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Being able to have a sense of humor about this matter and anything in life is important. I can joke about it and still be concerned about the environment.

While I don't believe in most projections regarding what our current weather says about the future of our planet, I believe that the crap we put into the air, water, etc... will come back to haunt us and it is our duty to pollute as little as possible while still living our lives.

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Old 08-16-2005, 09:05 AM   #8
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There is insufficient data to draw a conclusion.
 
Old 08-16-2005, 09:23 AM   #9
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Just wait another fifty years, there will be insufficient oilpaint to draw a conclusion and the canvas will be very wet indeed.
 
Old 08-16-2005, 09:58 AM   #10
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Humans these days make the mistake of you just don't know til it's too late! Even when there are clear warning signs, most just think by ignoring them, all their problems will go away.

Humans like to only care about themselves, immediate family (not always, which is sad) and nothing else.

In my opinion, humans are very intelligent but really stupid as well. Think about it, not long ago we thought the sun actually rotated around the earth. We thought the Earth was flat at one point and the moon made out of cheese. Who would have thought 50 years ago inhaling toxic chemicals from cigarettes would actually cause bodily harm. We still think violence is a means of solving issues.

To me, humans are still in our infancy. We'll pay the price and learn from our mistakes.................. maybe, if we survive it!
 
Old 08-16-2005, 03:49 PM   #11
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Originally posted by trickykid
Humans these days make the mistake of you just don't know til it's too late! Even when there are clear warning signs, most just think by ignoring them, all their problems will go away.

Humans like to only care about themselves, immediate family (not always, which is sad) and nothing else.

In my opinion, humans are very intelligent but really stupid as well. Think about it, not long ago we thought the sun actually rotated around the earth. We thought the Earth was flat at one point and the moon made out of cheese. Who would have thought 50 years ago inhaling toxic chemicals from cigarettes would actually cause bodily harm. We still think violence is a means of solving issues.

To me, humans are still in our infancy. We'll pay the price and learn from our mistakes.................. maybe, if we survive it!
This reminds me of a quote which I think is suiting, by Albert Einstein (seen it on several websites and one member's sig here)
"I don't know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
 
Old 08-16-2005, 03:57 PM   #12
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The end of the Ice Age was a warning sign, but that was 11,000 years ago. Neanderthals just don't listen I suppose.
 
Old 08-16-2005, 11:02 PM   #13
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Global warming is very bad:
Where I live, we have had decreasing rainfall for the last 25 years. This may be attributed to Global Warming.

Quote:
Originally posted by Charred
There is insufficient data to draw a conclusion.
According to the Institute of Engineers Australia, where some evidence of environmental damage exists, a lack of scientific evidence should not prevent action being taken now, since waiting for the evidence may be too late.

In my opinion, using insufficient data as an excuse to ignore global warming is an ignorant and selfish cop out.

--Ian
 
Old 08-17-2005, 12:14 AM   #14
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insignificance

Recorded history is what 2000 years?

Recorded statistics surrounding global temperatures, etc. is even younger.

Ten scientists looking at geological and fossil evidence will come up with a hundred different theories, and change them at each new little factoid.

More gases are created by microbes than all other life (including humans and thier industries) combined.

Oxygen remains at 20% of the atmosphere despite being a highly reactive (reducing) element. Photosynthesis cannot nearly replace the atmospheric oxygen that is constantly being reduced. Moreover, how can the level of oxygen remain consistently constant, despite the addition of humans, industry, and other various random? factors???

When a system with water is heated, water evaporates and the result is cooling. The earth's oceans can handle unbelievable amounts of heat.

There have been periods of ice-age and periods of relative warmth. For MILLIONS and MILLIONS of years.

There is evidence of ancient forest fires that burned on continental scales. Resulting dust and sudden increase in CO2 levels did not destroy life.

Conclusion? Whomever claims to understand all these things and has the audacity to suggest that we mere humans can affect any signficant changes (even intentionally), is quite simply ignorant.


The Earth is the ultimate renewer, and Man is the ultimate survivor.

Thank you very much - i'll keep my SUV, and leave the lights on.
 
Old 08-17-2005, 01:26 AM   #15
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Good point danimalz.

harken
And think at the generations that will come after us, what will they face?

Thats their problem, they're weak and whine alot anyway. I was 24 years old before I ever lived in a house with air conditioning.

scuzzman
It's obviously a joke. And yes the answers are designed to poke fun at several different groups. I personally dislike Liberals and since it was my poll I took some liberties. I shouldn't have to explain this but you are ... liberal... and liberals are... dense! :P

WARNING SOAPBOX SPEACH:
Yes if mankind does not find a way to populate other planets then we will eventually be exterminated by our beloved "mother earth" but I doubt it will be due to global warming or anything we had a hand in. More likely we will die from some major catastrophic event; Super Volcano, Earth's crust shifting, maybe ants eating everything on the planet including us, hit by a meteor etc...

And that quote by Albert Einstein is just asinine. You can't fight a war with sticks and stones. Do you know how many stones it would take to kill one person? The average soldier could not carry enough stones to kill even one person. Maybe if 20 soldiers surround one enemy soldier and you somehow convince that soldier to stand still while you pelt him with hundreds of stones. Sticks? Get real! Lets imagine you are being attacked by someone with a stick in WWIV. After you stop laughing the battle quickly becomes a game of "dodge stick." Just stay away from anyone swinging a stick and you are OK! So now it's a foot race, the guy with the stick is chasing you, and even if he eventually catches you he'll probably be so winded he'll hit you a couple times and pass out from exhaustion.

It's probably a good thing Albert wasn't a general. Remember a stick with a point is a spear, a rock in a slingshot is a missile. I'll equip my army with spears and slingshots and I'll win WWIV.
 
  


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