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rob.rice 10-14-2010 09:20 PM

I found a tome this sucker is 3.5 inches thick 1252 pages long "Red Hat LINUX 6 Unleashed"
for $5.00 brand new in a computer shop with red hat 6 install CDs
at a time when I was about to give up on computers as a hobby (after going from DOS to windbloze 95)
as I thumbed through the tome
I saw it had all the software I had been dreaming of getting BUT could not afford for M$

the information in this tome is still valid to this day
as often as not I will open it before coming here simply because it's faster

ee437 10-23-2010 08:26 PM

Well, in grad school, we had a VAX running unix, and i became the sys admin by default. i learned and loved emacs, writing code in FORTRAN (it was a while ago), elm, and playing rogue.

when i got my first job (college prof., electrical engineering, not computers) we all used windows. but, we had a motorolla 88000 pair of systems donated, and i learned more, but i was still using windows. eventually, i became the sole user and i installed TeX, gnuplot, and many other things. just imagine, a newbie, installing TeX from source on a machine with limited file name sizes. but TeX never changes, and i was tired of switching doc's between word and wordperfect. eventually, i found myself in front of a windows box, and only using it to open a window to a unix machine.

i used red hat, but then things changed too much. if i remember right, /etc/inittab was changed and that thru me for a loop, so i got slackware. So, i still use plain TeX (but some LaTeX), i calculated grades using awk for years, but recently switched to sc, and sometimes, our Tech support comes to me with questions. I help them, and they leave me and my computer systems alone (i.e., i'm never asked to switch to windows).

life is good with linux.

Mr. Alex 10-24-2010 07:18 AM

First I thought about using GNU because it's free of charge. But when I learned a little bit more about the system, I liked it better then Windows. And I can't say I "liked" Windows. I just used it. And I don't like everything about GNU, but for me GNU is definitely better then Windows.

I tried Mandriva, Mint, Ubuntu, Debian. Now I use Arch, it's the best GNU distro for me.

P. S. Why do we call GNU "Linux"? I don't even like calling it "GNU/Linux". It's like "pizza is based on bread; bread is the bottom of pizza, just like the core, there's no pizza without bread, why not call it pizza/bread or just simply bread?". Just thinking aloud, never mind. :)

Kenny_Strawn 10-24-2010 07:20 AM

Actually, GNU is the userland; Linux is the only thing that's in kernel space. But I agree, Mr. Alex: You do have a good point.

H_TeXMeX_H 10-24-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Alex (Post 4137546)
P. S. Why do we call GNU "Linux"? I don't even like calling it "GNU/Linux". It's like "pizza is based on bread; bread is the bottom of pizza, just like the core, there's no pizza without bread, why not call it pizza/bread or just simply bread?". Just thinking aloud, never mind. :)

Because without the Linux kernel, GNU would be dead in the water (mostly because of RMS' fated decision that lead to the terrible Hurd kernel).

brianL 10-24-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 4137549)
Because without the Linux kernel, GNU would be dead in the water.

No, all the GNU stuff would still be usable in Windows: Cygwin, Msys + MinGW, GnuWin32, DJGPP, MSFU, etc.

H_TeXMeX_H 10-24-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by brianL (Post 4137719)
No, all the GNU stuff would still be usable in Windows: Cygwin, Msys + MinGW, GnuWin32, DJGPP, MSFU, etc.

True, but what use is that ? What kind of incentive is this to devs ? At least now, they are working towards a fully free, and great OS, not just a bunch of free programs on a proprietary OS that sucks.

Without the kernel you don't have a FLOSS OS, just some FLOSS programs.

brianL 10-24-2010 11:39 AM

True, without the Linux kernel we would be deep in the brown smelly stuff. It might have forced the GNU lot to get a move on, and have a rethink about their own kernel.

brianL 10-24-2010 03:48 PM

OTOH, where would the Linux kernel be without all the GNU tools?

H_TeXMeX_H 10-25-2010 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brianL (Post 4137926)
OTOH, where would the Linux kernel be without all the GNU tools?

It wouldn't be anything but a kernel. I think "GNU/Linux" is enough. Most of the time I just use "linux", and if RMS were standing next to me, he would probably choke-hold me until I fix it.

MTK358 10-25-2010 07:24 AM

I also think that it should properly be called "GNU/Linux", but just "Linux" is fine for most cases, it's easier to say and people will understand.

donnagarnet 10-25-2010 12:10 PM

Let me begin by saying that I'm a "casual" computer user. I use mine for researching mostly useless info, storing & listening to music, playing games, & pretending to be a writer. I do love email; it's saved me piles of money on long-distance phone calls to family & friends in far-away places, & the internet is terrific for making travel plans. However, most of what I use my computers for is fairly useless stuff.

I used WinXP for about six years. I thought it was fantastic compared to the only other systems I'd ever used (Commadore & Win-based computers at work dedicated to running machinery & processes).

I bought a cheap laptop with Vista & thought it was.. well.....okay. However, the laptop was used to play games on while I recovered from surgery away from home & to check email when I travel. One day I took it in to have a problem checked & while waiting for the "doctor" to diagnose the problem, I was looking at towers with Vista. Although my old desktop was working, my brain fell out & I bought a new one. I spend an hour or more a day on the desktop; the laptop spends most of it's time gathering dust.

There are no words to describe how much I loathed Vista once I had to use it regularly. It froze with frustrating frequency, crashed from time to time,& sometimes simply refused to do what I wanted it to. Especially annoying were the messages I got after being tossed off line ("IE is shutting down for no discernable reason. Sit there & twiddle your thumbs while someone at Microsoft pretends to care that there's a problem.")

After almost two years of wrestling Vista & losing, I started researching other operating systems. I stumbled across the "wubi" Ubuntu installer & decided to try it.

I loved Linux. IMO, it blows Windows out of the water. After playing with it & getting used to it for a few months, I bought "Ubuntu for Non-Geeks" & used the included CD to permanently install Ubuntu 10.04. I have a dual-boot system; I left some GB for windows for a few things that aren't Linux compatible, & gave the rest to Ubuntu. Although I gave my teen-aged nephew Win Office for his computer, he comes to my house to write school papers on Open Office.

The only thing I have a problem with is media players. I've tried all the players in the software catalog, & the only one that works at all is Rhythmbox, & that doesn't work correctly. Otherwise I'm a happy linux user.


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