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Old 02-12-2006, 05:36 PM   #1
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how would the internet be now if Tim Berners Lee was like Bill gates


Tim Berners Lee to all intents and purposes the founder of the internet. Imagine if he had patented his invention and had the attitude of bill gates. Jesus! how much would users have been paying now. Thanks Tim

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Old 02-12-2006, 07:09 PM   #2
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I don't think people would be using his internet if that where the case. Most likely someone would quickly come up with a better alternative.

It's too basic of an idea for someone not to come up with an alternative.
 
Old 02-12-2006, 08:25 PM   #3
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Surely, since ARPAnet was the precursor of the modern internet, it would have simply been forked?
 
Old 02-12-2006, 08:29 PM   #4
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I don't know if you remember MICROSOFT NETWORK. It was an attemp to make an alternative internet. It wasn't successful, but it's the same scenario you've mencioned.

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Old 02-13-2006, 07:40 AM   #5
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Why do I keep hearing this rubbish? The internet was not designed or built by Tim Berners Lee. He had a good idea, it was called Hyper Text Markup Language. It was one of among many ideas circulating on the internet as to how URL's could be embedded into documents. He can be said to have made a contribution towards the development of the World Wide Web, but anyone who thinks that the Web is synonimous with the internet is seriously lacking some history. -

http://www.isoc.org/internet/history/brief.shtml

So yes he can be shown to be the first person to have thought of the particular URL embedding system that came to be adopted as standard on the Web. But the Web is not the Internet. Just a subset of it. The internet was alive and well and doing FTP and eMail and Gophering and lots of other stuff before the web came along.

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Old 02-13-2006, 08:33 AM   #6
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but anyone who thinks that the Web is synonimous with the internet is seriously lacking some history. -
Of course that's about 99% of the population of the United States that says "dood i'm going on the internet"... Maybe it's just me but I can't stand it when somebody uses the wrong terminology.
 
Old 02-13-2006, 07:27 PM   #7
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Are you refering to the usage of TCP/IP as a networking technology? The only reason we are using TCP/IP is because it was the only open source (free) networking technology available. There where other networking technologies available but they were owned by DEC, Xerox, and IBM to name a few.
 
Old 02-13-2006, 09:18 PM   #8
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Are you refering to the usage of TCP/IP as a networking technology? The only reason we are using TCP/IP is because it was the only open source (free) networking technology available. There where other networking technologies available but they were owned by DEC, Xerox, and IBM to name a few.
Well, if you compare the alternatives (NetBIOS, IPX, Appletalk) and how they actually work, you'll realize that IP (and later TCP/IP) won due to its technical merits and not just "openness" alone.

Routing IPX and Appletalk is painful at best, and NetBIOS has to ride on top of other protocols in order to be routed. Very ugly.
 
Old 02-14-2006, 01:14 PM   #9
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Well, if you compare the alternatives (NetBIOS, IPX, Appletalk) and how they actually work, you'll realize that IP (and later TCP/IP) won due to its technical merits and not just "openness" alone.

Routing IPX and Appletalk is painful at best, and NetBIOS has to ride on top of other protocols in order to be routed. Very ugly.
Totally right. And I've worked on most of em in my time. IPX is clumsy, Appletalk is better but still a bit of a wierd beast, Decnet is just a mess plus frankly each phase was plaguerised from something else anyway. Microsofts SMB/Netbios is a hideous cludge. And SNA is an unbelievable nightmare, spawned by some complete lunatic. And as for the OSI suite, well urgh!

And the fact that the IP suite of protocols is so ubiquitous is just another demonstration of how an "open" development model produces superior results.
 
  


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