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LinuxCrazy 07-26-2007 02:16 PM

How to build a datacenter?
 
Does anyone have any info on how to build a datacenter? Or how a datacenter works? What do you need to maintain the batteries at a datacenter? what does 5Mb/s Unmetered Conection (1500GB in and 1500GB out) or 1Mb/s Fully Burstable mean? How much bandwidth will that take? what is Single Server (Up to 1U, Upgrade to 2U) mean?
I cannot find any info on this.

Matir 07-26-2007 02:40 PM

If you're looking to build a datacenter, but are not yet proficient with what bandwidth terms are, you might be in a bit over your head.

That being said: 5Mb/s Unmetered means you can constantly use 5Mb/s for the whole time with no problems. 1Mb/s burstable means that, at times, you can use more than 1Mb/s (i.e., for short periods of high usage) but your average cannot exceed 1Mb/s.

This thread does not appear to be Linux related, so I'm going to move it to General.

LinuxCrazy 07-26-2007 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matir
If you're looking to build a datacenter, but are not yet proficient with what bandwidth terms are, you might be in a bit over your head.

That being said: 5Mb/s Unmetered means you can constantly use 5Mb/s for the whole time with no problems. 1Mb/s burstable means that, at times, you can use more than 1Mb/s (i.e., for short periods of high usage) but your average cannot exceed 1Mb/s.

This thread does not appear to be Linux related, so I'm going to move it to General.


what does 5Mb/s Unmetered Conection (1500GB in and 1500GB out) or 1Mb/s Fully Burstable mean?

what about 1500gb in and 1500gb out? How much bandwidth would a server be able to take?

What does a datacenter mean when they say fully managed t1 line?

any datacenter articles? I'm not going to build a datacenter just want to know how they work.

Matir 07-26-2007 03:25 PM

What bandwidth a server takes is highly dependent upon the use of the server. A high-end storage server (EMC/Veritas, etc.) can saturate a 1Gb/s connection under peak load.

1500GB in and out is just that: 1.5TB each way.

Fully managed t1 sounds like you get your own T1 line, but that's not an industry-standard term.

Try this: http://www.networkworld.com/topics/datacenter.html

docalton 07-26-2007 03:44 PM

Building a datacenter involves so many things. Some things to keep in mind if your considering building a datacenter are:

Reliable Power (UPS, Backup Generator, Whatever it takes to keeps the juice flowing)

Location (important so that you can get the connectivity you need)

Proper Cooling (make sure its power protected as well)

Fire suppression systems

Proper place to put your datacenter so that it is as "hardened" as possible. Don't put it in in the basement in a flood-prone area (LOL).

Proven Disaster Recovery plan

Good equipment (not JoeBlow's server special/linksys hubs etc...)

Most of the other questions have been answered, but a "U" as in 1U or 2U is a measurment of the height of a rack mounted piece of equipment. 1U is like 1.5In I believe. A typical rack is 19In (between mounting rails) wide and height can vary from short to tall.

Sounds like you really could benefit from hiring some outside help to get this going.

Hope this helps.

salasi 07-27-2007 02:04 AM

...build a datacentre (form factors)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by docalton
Building a datacenter involves so many things.

...understatement of the week (so far)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by docalton
Most of the other questions have been answered, but a "U" as in 1U or 2U is a measurment of the height of a rack mounted piece of equipment. 1U is like 1.5In I believe. A typical rack is 19In (between mounting rails) wide and height can vary from short to tall.

This article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19-inch_rack
give 1 U as 1.75". But the critical point is that these things are modular. So, mechanically, you can treat this stuff like Lego (kiddies building bricks, if that's an obscure cultural reference), provided that you obey the rules.

So, if you are in charge of the information infrastructure, you can commit to a particular combination of computational servers and data storage equipment, and in, say, two year's time when your organisation's needs have changed and the technology on offer has also changed (server consolidation and data storage densities) you plug in new modules to the existing server infrastructure.

You can see how that would be more appealing to the CIO. Rather than going to the CFO and saying "you know that expensive equipment we put in 2 years ago, and that we are writing down over 5 years, well we have scrap it all and buy a complete new set of expensive kit" you would be saying "due to increased requirements, we need to upgrade the servers within the existing infrastructure".

Given that it is difficult to look out much more than 6 months or so in the availability of technology and while you probably predict your data and computation requirements a bit further out (although things like green initiatives coming down from on high can blindside you), you can see that you are looking at the future through a rather murky glass. In this context, the modular approach is very attractive.

Of course, this is only important if you are intending to keep your job :rolleyes:

For servers, the most usual form factors are 1U ('pizza box') and 3U (a series of 'blades' in a sub-rack). In extremis, theoretically the blade server form-factor can achieve the better computational density, but that's not always the key requirement.

Dragineez 07-27-2007 09:23 AM

Treasured Advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by docalton
Proper place to put your datacenter so that it is as "hardened" as possible. Don't put it in the basement in a flood-prone area (LOL)

You mean like the U.S. Treasury Building? A co-worker was employed at Treasury at the time, and their data center in the basement suffered significant water damage from the fire fighting efforts.


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