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Old 05-03-2004, 06:18 AM   #1
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Talking Help this poor Linus Torvalds!!!!!!


I have two kids, named Linus Torvalds and Bill Gates. They share the same computer. So the hardware is not the problem. Linus loves Linux and uses Slackware 9.1. He compiled 2.6.3 kernel. Bill Gates loves Microsoft and uses Windows XP Home Edition. They both hate server and use operating system as desktop. Because they use the same computer, they use dual boot solution. Linus installed Grub in MBR and Bill hates so much but well, Bill have to share the computer.

One day, they decided to test which os boot faster. Bill did first. From the moment he choose Windows XP in Grub menu and see the login screen, he need 22-24 seconds. But poor Linus need 30-32 seconds to see GDM ( Gnome login screen ) from the moment he choose Slackware in Grub menu. So Bill said to Linus, "Linux is for looser." and Linus was crying like a baby.

Again, they decided to test which desktop manager load faster? Linux one or Windows one? Bill did first. From the moment he click his picture in login screen until he ready to work in desktop, he need 15 seconds. Oh yeah, Bill's lovely Windows desktop in this testing load antivirus and ZoneAlarm firewall program. Now it's Linus turn. Linus is smart. So he use light desktop manager. XFCE. Of course, it load faster. Now Bill cann't laugh at Linus again.

But hey, Bill have to buy something outside. So Linus is alone in my home. Linus test Gnome desktop. From the moment he enter in GDM ( after typing username and password ), until he ready work in Gnome desktop, he need 18-19 seconds. This make him desperate because Linux and Windows are competiting in enterprise desktop. NO one could expect xfce to represent Linux in desktop manager. The choice are KDE or Gnome. Unfortunately, KDE or Gnome load slower than Windows XP desktop manager. Slower couples seconds. Maybe 4 until 5 seconds. This make him sad again. He dream somehow Linux could compete with Windows in enterprise desktop field.

So he decided to work:
1. The problem is not in kernel. Linus 2.6.3 kernel load fast. Very fast. It just take 20 seconds. And the problem is not with startup services because he just use acpid daemon, sendmail daemon, syslog daemon that make only 1-2 seconds differences. The problem is with X. From the statement:
Starting X11 sessiong manager........

until he see GDM, it takes 5 or 6 seconds. This is very slow compared to Windows.

2. He have no idea why KDE or Gnome load slower that Windows desktop.


Guys, can you help this poor Linus??????
 
Old 05-03-2004, 08:26 AM   #2
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Re: Help this poor Linus Torvalds!!!!!!

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2. He have no idea why KDE or Gnome load slower that Windows desktop.
Because those are hogs.... use a lighter window manager or desktop like xfce, or fluxbox.. . and don't load directly into X using gdm, etc.. its just more things to load.. hve them login and startx or add it to their .bash_login to auto startx once they login thru the console..
 
Old 05-03-2004, 09:15 AM   #3
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Console Linus with the reminder that once it is up it can stay up, for hundreds of days. Perhaps thousands of days. Not bad for a few seconds lost at the start.
 
Old 09-02-2004, 08:55 PM   #4
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It is a matter of time.

Wait for Billy to install more aplications and his disck fragment. And his Desktop manager would start a lot slower. Sometimes it seems like it start fast, but you move the mouse around and it take long time to start button to work.

And I think xfce is good. It is really fast and does it work. think you can combine it with gnome or kde and use those apllications.
 
Old 09-02-2004, 09:19 PM   #5
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why not use xfce?

it does everything kde does.
 
Old 09-02-2004, 10:22 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by nuka_t
why not use xfce?

it does everything kde does.
How can I use the kde menu on xfce4. I just start using it a few days a go and i like how fast it is. So I am thinking on changeing to it.

Thanks
 
Old 09-03-2004, 09:41 AM   #7
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I assume Bill was away spending all that money he earned ..
 
Old 09-03-2004, 09:49 AM   #8
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While the windows desktop loads quicker, you still need to wait for the services to run before it is usable. You might want to check if you have Linux services running that you don't need.
 
Old 09-03-2004, 10:56 AM   #9
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Bear in mind that when you run linux, you are most likely to also boot up an ssh daemon, a mail service, telnet daemon, samba daemon, print server and cron. Windows doesn't do that and boot up in 22 seconds
 
Old 09-09-2004, 12:23 PM   #10
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Use xfce once configurated it is the best. I it is fast and it is really easy to use. XFCE rules
 
Old 09-24-2004, 08:28 AM   #11
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Aussie Edit: darksmiley, If you have nothing constructive to add then please refrain from commenting, I don't want to have to waste my time editing another of your posts again.

Last edited by Aussie; 09-24-2004 at 12:27 PM.
 
Old 09-28-2004, 06:55 PM   #12
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im sorry its just such a pointless thing to start a thread over. its more than obvious that linux boots up in MORE STAGES, is fundamentally MULTI-USER, and the speed it boots is going to depend on your own kernel compilation and configuration. its a groundless argument.
 
  


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