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Old 08-13-2016, 09:47 AM   #1
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Health and safety gone mad!


I found a Logitech ps2 keyboard and decided to use it to replace my cheap usb one, which has a couple of stiff keys. While using it for the first time, I noticed some small print above the arrow keys.
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WARNING: Some experts believe that the use of any keyboard may cause serious injury. Consult statement on the back of this keyboard.
The statement on the back turns out to be the usual stuff about avoiding repetitive strain injury by working for only an hour at a time, sitting at the right height, and so on. Quite sensible, but the warning on the front is altogether OTT. It doesn't say anything about excessive use, just implies that if you so much as touch a keyboard, your life will be in danger.

Obviously they're trying to protect themselves from lawsuits. People are so infantile these days!

And while we're at it, how do they expect me to use a computer (other than a tablet) without using a keyboard?
 
Old 08-13-2016, 10:46 AM   #2
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Unfortunately, in today's world lawyers, and their clients, make their livings off of court settlements!!
 
Old 08-13-2016, 10:50 AM   #3
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You can thank the US (and, to an extent, other) legal system for that. It's the price we pay for living in fascist idiocracies.
 
Old 08-13-2016, 11:05 AM   #4
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At least you won't shoot your eye out. If my preferred mode of transport was invented today. It would probably be outlawed and illegal.
 
Old 08-13-2016, 02:04 PM   #5
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Keyboards, Desks can be Hazardous to Your Health / 2012

and you're right.
Printed clearly (seen/unseen) is a legal maneuver.
 
Old 08-13-2016, 06:21 PM   #6
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http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/brain-controlled-gadgets/
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Speech_recognition
...
http://www.open-electronics.org/axio...e-coming-soon/
https://www.crowdsupply.com/ugl/ulti...cking-keyboard
and beyond...
 
Old 08-13-2016, 06:44 PM   #7
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It Figures, After I just shelled out 24 bucks for this

Code:
Machine:   System: Dell (portable) product: Latitude XT2
           Mobo: Dell model: 0HJ48R Bios: Dell v: A01 date: 05/07/2009
Battery    BAT0: charge: 38.0 Wh 167.9% condition: 22.6/38.0 Wh (60%)
laptop new battery.
 
Old 08-13-2016, 08:30 PM   #8
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I think the screwiest warning I ever saw was on a gas (petrol) pump to effect that one should not drink the gasoline. I just noticed that my electric razor has a warning sticker not to hold it under a faucet.

Generally, this sort of silliness has more to do with corporate lawyers' cases of the vapors over possible product liability law suits than it does with any government actions. It's compounded by those same lawyers' willingness to settle stupid suits, even when they would almost certainly win them, because it's cheaper than fighting.
 
Old 08-14-2016, 01:01 AM   #9
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Truth may well indeed be stranger than fiction. As a teenager I read a lot of Sci Fi and one short story was about a world in which robots had slowly been given control of everything. Unlike SkyNet these robots were trying to be helpful by protecting humans from injury but they took it to it's "logical" conclusion and after a time humans became literally bored to death. There was no longr any risk or danger. The main character had a hidden room with a dartboard that he carefully went to.... at first, but over time the added contraband thrill eroded his will and he went more and more often and at bad times, like when he knew patrols were likely. Naturally he was discovered and they confiscated his darts speaking to him as a misbehaving, silly child who unfortunately just didn't know any better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Benjamin Franklin
Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
 
Old 08-14-2016, 02:46 AM   #10
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@Habitual: What that article says about women needing to use smaller keyboards isn't true for me. I have rather small hands, even for a woman, but I find a laptop keyboard much more difficult to work with than a proper full-size one.

@enorbet. Asimov wrote a similar story. As you know, Asimov's robots were prevented by the second law of robotics from allowing human beings to come to harm. However, unlike the robots in your story, they were intelligent enough to realise that overprotectiveness could itself become harmful. Fortunately their superior minds allowed them to exploit the mathematics of the many-worlds theory to select which of an infinite number of possible worlds would become the real one. They chose a world in which Earth was the only planet in our galaxy to have produced intelligent life; in such a world, humanity would be as safe as was reasonably possible. And then they withdrew into another dimension for ever.

Last edited by hazel; 08-14-2016 at 02:52 AM. Reason: Factual correction
 
Old 08-14-2016, 08:47 AM   #11
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If robots were to cause too much evolution all at once, humanity would catch up...
 
Old 08-14-2016, 09:30 AM   #12
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As some may have noticed through the quality of my posts, I get round the possibility of keyboard injuries and RSI by wearing boxing gloves while I'm typing.
 
Old 08-14-2016, 09:55 AM   #13
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The real problem to every opinion is your two year old children... .edu

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Old 08-14-2016, 02:28 PM   #14
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Thank you Hazel, naturally I'm very familiar with Asimov but I had forgotten that he actually considered the robot "brain" as superior, but now that you mention it I recall he also outlined that they didn't start that way even in a time quite distant from now, but evolved that way over millennia.

I remembered a cautionary tale by him that finds the worlds of humans devoid of humans and the robots have advanced to a point where they see humans as The Creators and begin a galactic search to find them/us. After many thousands of years, nothing to an advanced machine, they have found no trace and begin to posit humans have not only "left the vicinity" but have ceased to exist, so the search is redoubled to discover who or what caused such a horrific thing as to "murder God". Hundreds of thousands of years pass before they realize that humans did it to themselves, and the Grand Poobah of the robots, getting the report is faced with the conundrum of reporting the truth or hiding it, now having to consider the effect of such disheartening knowledge on the whole "race" of robots. Asimov's reputation is obviously well deserved. Thanks again for reminding me.
 
Old 08-14-2016, 09:05 PM   #15
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Scientists have recently confirmed that saliva causes cancer!

However, only when ingested in small quantities over a very long period of time.
 
  


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