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Suffering and death is part of life. When a human being is suffering from whatever problems he/she is facing, the person have to realize, that although it isn't really comfortable to get through this process, sometimes is the only way, the person is going to learn in order to evolutionaize, progress, and transform. When a human being is dying, every body got something to learn from that process. The person itself and the others around him/her., and sometimes the ones around need to learn more from the process,than the one who is dying. That is why, the process of death, specially the natural one, should never be hidden from the others (family and friends). Even children should be expose to this process, when their grandparents are approaching the final days of their existence, because in observing and accepting how this event develop around their live, they start to understand that live is not forever and everything sooner or later ends someday. Death (natural or by accident) is only one step forward in order to advance and progress to a new life afterwards (in heaven/or back to this level/the physical one). Suicide is a step backwards (going to hell/ or retuning back to a worst or bad life). We are more than blood and flesh, we are spiritual beings who are in a process of continuos evolution/change.
How does suicide solve problems? That's what I would ask people considering it (otherwise healthy people that is, who are not terminally ill, live in extreme pain, are severely handicapped, etc). They might say "life is not worth living anymore, if I was dead, it would all just be over." So what would make life worth living? And why is that unachievable? To put it in terms of the "permanent solution to a temporary problem" logic, what makes your problem(s) permanent? Suicide won't make you richer. It won't introduce you to your soulmate. It won't change drug-addled (or just plain crazy) relatives who ripped you off for some obscene amount of money (they'll just find someone else to steal from). And it damn sure won't make you look better.
How does suicide solve problems? That's what I would ask people considering it (otherwise healthy people that is, who are not terminally ill, live in extreme pain, are severely handicapped, etc). They might say "life is not worth living anymore, if I was dead, it would all just be over." So what would make life worth living? And why is that unachievable? To put it in terms of the "permanent solution to a temporary problem" logic, what makes your problem(s) permanent? Suicide won't make you richer. It won't introduce you to your soulmate. It won't change drug-addled (or just plain crazy) relatives who ripped you off for some obscene amount of money (they'll just find someone else to steal from). And it damn sure won't make you look better.
So how does suicide solve anything?
I think for many that kill themselves, they've already tried, sometimes for many decades, to solve whatever it may be that causes them so much suffering. Suicide is a possible (none of us knows what awaits us in the afterlife, so this is a gamble) escape from problems that feel unsolvable. Maybe it's not so simple as being richer, better looking, finding a soulmate. Some experience unceasing mental and emotional anguish that we haven't felt and therefore shouldn't judge.
As for calling suicide cowardly I definitely disagree. The body will do everything it can to preserve itself and it takes incredible will power to override your inevitable panic/self preservation responses. It may sound like I'm arguing that suicide is great, I'm not, it's terrible and saddening. Just think we should show some respect for the dead and not label them simple minded, irrational cowards.
Well, I recommend to all that have considered it, that you think well on it, and find all the reasons you can against it ... because if the future gets dark, you need to be on solid ground thought-wise or you'll fall easily.
Severe clinical depression is a very real illness and quite often leads to suicide. It's hardly a matter of weakness any more than having cancer or kidney disease or any other illness. These sorts of opinions are exactly why there is such a stigma regarding depression and other mental illnesses and keep people from seeking the health care that could literally save their lives.
When considered rationally, of course suicide is not an option, but someone who is suffering from true clinical depression is not capable of thinking rationally.
I've suffered from clinical depression most of my life (chemical imbalance), inherited it from my father who committed suicide when I was 10. Getting treatment was the best thing I ever did but I put it off until it was almost too late because of the stigma. With treatment and the right medication I was able to recover and have been off the meds for a good many years now.
Pedophiles.... there a sick unfortunate... underground... handshaking ^- insidious group of morons that need to be exposed
I see you're from Utah. Do you mean the polygamist Mormon Fundamentalist group in Colorado City, then?--I thought I heard that pedophilia was involved there. Or maybe your location is a coincidence, and you're talking about some other group that practices pedophilia. Of course I agree with you about whoever you're referring to.
Last edited by newbiesforever; 02-23-2009 at 01:45 AM.
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