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Old 05-18-2010, 12:52 AM   #16
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Your boss(es) are absolutely NOT going to care what your skill set is, etc...you were hired, and when they say "get the system going", they mean RIGHT NOW. Not "Let me post a question and wait for a reply". You will quickly be replaced if you do that, and performing badly on a job will follow you a VERY long time.
+1

Sushil,

No offense intended

The above statement TBOne has said is the brutal truth you'll have to face (if your networking/system administration basics are not set right).
And if you are asked to resign in your first job or if you are simply given the termination letter, it will have a very bad effect your whole professional career.

I have not seen your threads. But you need to ask yourself whether you qualify for the job or not !

[EDIT]
This is not the time to get offended, but the time time to think:

Do you qualify for the job ?
Are you prepared to take the risks there after ?
[/EDIT]

Last edited by TheIndependentAquarius; 05-18-2010 at 01:32 AM.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 12:53 AM   #17
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Chaitanya,

I agree with your point.I did my RHCE after my first job (1 year exp) and soon went for critical wireless product Support Engineer as my second job. Though I got certified but I faced lots of problem because of frequent downtime in production servers.

So its difficult for fresher passout to directly touch and work on production servers.You should understand this.

What My Experience says " Being Certitifed, You are shortlisted easily among the other 500+ buddies searching for job. But experience matters a lot."
When I was interviewed by one of MNC long time back there were 7 guys among which me and one more guys were not RHCE. Those RHCE couldnt qualify and we were in".RHCE doesnt guarentee you jobs through the fixed subject module examination. You should have hands-on experience working real time sophisticated servers.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 01:01 AM   #18
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+1. no certification would guarantee you a job. None. It may make your resume look interesting than others, but experience is what counts at the end.
I think sushil should take job nonetheless as it will give him some hands on. Anyhow, it will not affect me, I aint a Dena Bank customer.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 01:52 AM   #19
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Moved: This thread is more suitable in <GENERAL> and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 01:56 AM   #20
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Thank you.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 02:28 AM   #21
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JUST SHUT YOUR DIRTY MOUTH; I DONíT WANT YOU TO REPLY IN THIS WAY, I ASKED ABOUT JOB AND NOT ABOUT MY EDUCATIONAL LIFE.

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO SAY THAT?JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE MASTER AT YOUR FIELD; DO YOU GET LICENCE OF UNDERESTIMATING OTHERS?

IF YOU DONíT WANT TO REPLY JUST BE AWAY. I WOULD RATHER BE HAPPY BEING CONFUSED THAN HEARING SUCH WORDS FROM ARROGANT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

JUST STAY AWAY!
This little hissy fit is rich coming from you buddy. I really can understand where TBOne is coming from - the guy is being honest about your level of skills to be able to do the job.

He is not criticizing you because he is a "MASTER AT YOUR FIELD" - you asked the question about whether you'd be suited to the job and what the prospects are in this job.

At LQ, most members are experienced people who've worked (and/or are working) in the industry; and have seen what a lack of experience can do to someone thrown into the deep end.

chaitanya is also 100%, if you are administrating a bank or Telco grade system which is mission critical; a failed node due to an inexperienced mistake would mean millions lost; and you would be held accountable and possibly even fired.

We are here to advise you best based on our experience; and you really need to learn to swallow your pride and accept that you will struggle in this position.

Cheers
Yas
 
Old 05-18-2010, 03:36 AM   #22
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@meandsushil: I have just browsed your last 11 threads and, uncomfortable as it may be, have to agree with TB0ne that you do not seem to have a great grasp of Linux systems administration concepts -- not enough to research for information, to ask a clear question or to follow advice. Contrary to the general opinion, I think this job may be perfect for you as long as you listen, read and watch attentively during the induction training and then study the procedures manuals until you know them perfectly.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 06:54 AM   #23
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@meandsushil: I have just browsed your last 11 threads and, uncomfortable as it may be, have to agree with TB0ne that you do not seem to have a great grasp of Linux systems administration concepts -- not enough to research for information, to ask a clear question or to follow advice. Contrary to the general opinion, I think this job may be perfect for you as long as you listen, read and watch attentively during the induction training and then study the procedures manuals until you know them perfectly.
You do not need to look into all or most of his posts. In recent times, he has had made more than couple of posts just for same issue that he could not solve till date. One of the thread was closed by pixellany for not providing enough information and not responding to the replies he got. And the issue was to configure internet in Linux. But till closing, he did not reveal if it was adsl broadband internet that is always on or broadband that needs user and password, a very simple information without which it is simply impossible to help.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 07:12 AM   #24
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TBone has said what I was thinking. When I first saw this thread, I could not believe it was the same person as in the earlier ones.

Regardless:

Sushil;
Whatever else you do, please avoid the little temper tantrums. People here have tried to help you---unfortunately in this case,"help" has meant some good faith concern as to your qualifications for the job in question. Based on your posting history here, I believe that concern is well justified.

I'm reporting this to be closed....meanwhile, please keep the conversation civil.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 07:27 AM   #25
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I think that this has run it's course - what with the emotion and everything. I think that the answer is clear - certs will only get you so far, you need experience and hands-on knowledge. It is useful to take a junior role and then progress to other roles once you have an awareness of what they are and what they involve.

Best of luck with whatever course your working life takes.
 
  


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