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Old 05-16-2010, 11:51 PM   #1
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Question Has this job have future growth ? Is this job good for linux fresher?


Hi, all friends! Sorry to not to reply to my previous asked questions. I was busy attending some interviews.

I am seriously so confused about which job should start my working life. I am 28 now, still a Fresher. I did H.S.C.+DIPLOMA(COMPUTER)+BE(COMPUTER)+RHCE

I am selected for the post of "Technical Support Engineer (FM Engineer)"
at DENA BANK (Dena Data Center Bldg)

Following are the job profile:

Job Profile & Responsibilities

Shift job (Weekly rotation Shift) i.e. 8 hrs X 6 days with 1 weekly holiday.

Monitoring the ATM Sites and ATM transactions, Terminal connectivity, Nodes and

Modules of Leading Bank’s in INDIA.



- Assign Responsibilities in case of Node Failures

- Interacting with customer through the defined communication methods.

- Track such problems till closure and record the incidents with details.

- Coordinating with Support Team & Development teams.

- Applying Software releases & patches, functional Testing of the same.

- Will ensure that all the mails are responded to within reasonable time.

- Intervene in case ATM or any Node or Module is down for extended time.


Platform:



Unix, SUN Solaris & ORACLE

Salary :-7k to 8k (Sal no issue)

So my question is, will this job has any future growth in LINUX field or Banking domain?I want to update my knowledge too along with my job.
WHAT ARE CHANCES OF GROWTH IN THIS FIELD?


Please guide me properly I have no idea about this.
HAVE SOME FRIENDLY GUIDANCE PLEASE.

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Old 05-17-2010, 12:35 AM   #2
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Hello,

In my opinion, any job can help you grow and will add to your experience and knowledge, albeit in fields not directly related to Linux. Since you state yourself that you are a 'fresher', just starting out on a first job, I'd say go for it and learn from it what you can. IT is an environment in which you NEVER can know too much and you'll encounter yourself learning something new every day.

Kind regards,

Eric
 
Old 05-17-2010, 12:37 AM   #3
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Junior jobs supporting business critical systems for large organisations are usually very limited -- set procedures must be followed, access is restricted and the work area is technically small. Job security is good and most such organisations have a staff development plan (so provide training) and have a career road map through second and third line support that can take many years, waiting for people to leave. In banking, pay rates are above average and the benefits package (cheap loans, medical insurance, pension scheme) can be very valuable. My knowledge is primarily of Europe; I would be interested to know if it is similar in India.

Such jobs are not well suited to people who want to master their field and take responsibility. Those people are better suited to small organisations where the technical support team is less than ten rather than several hundred. Job security and pay is likely to be smaller; benefit packages next to non-existent and training schemes non-existent or ad-hoc but there will be exposure to a wide range of technology, personal initiative is an essential asset, there's more human contact, "project" involvement is more likely, contact with senior team members (with skills for juniors to pick up informally) is commonplace.

A third alternative is work with a consultancy or systems house. They are big organisations but their product is technical expertise; if they do take on juniors they select the best and put them through intensive training.
 
Old 05-17-2010, 01:19 AM   #4
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I agree with EricTRA: just get the job and add it to your resume. From experience I wouldn't say such jobs are not well suited to people who want to master their field and take responsibility: if along the way the job offers opportunities then it will be because of how you present yourself.
 
Old 05-17-2010, 05:57 AM   #5
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Traveling is lot for this job
 
Old 05-17-2010, 08:58 AM   #6
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Post #1:

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I did H.S.C.+DIPLOMA(COMPUTER)+BE(COMPUTER)+RHCE
No offense buddy but I find the RHCE part hard to believe based on some of the posts/questions you've asked here on LQ. Its simply not possible for anyone whose done the RHCE not to know how to for example, setup the internet on a Linux box.

Anyway, this field may not be the best when it comes to money itself; but when it comes to job satisfaction, you couldn't ask for more to keep you interested and motivated.

Cheers
Yas
 
Old 05-17-2010, 09:45 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meandsushil View Post
Hi, all friends! Sorry to not to reply to my previous asked questions. I was busy attending some interviews.

I am seriously so confused about which job should start my working life. I am 28 now, still a Fresher. I did H.S.C.+DIPLOMA(COMPUTER)+BE(COMPUTER)+RHCE

I am selected for the post of "Technical Support Engineer (FM Engineer)" at DENA BANK (Dena Data Center Bldg)
You HAVE BEEN selected, or you are INTERVIEWING for this job?? And you say "start my working life", but in your other posts, you say you already had a job. Which is it?
Quote:
Following are the job profile:

Job Profile & Responsibilities
Shift job (Weekly rotation Shift) i.e. 8 hrs X 6 days with 1 weekly holiday.
Monitoring the ATM Sites and ATM transactions, Terminal connectivity, Nodes and
Modules of Leading Bank’s in INDIA.
Assign Responsibilities in case of Node Failures
Interacting with customer through the defined communication methods.
Track such problems till closure and record the incidents with details.
Coordinating with Support Team & Development teams.
Applying Software releases & patches, functional Testing of the same.
Will ensure that all the mails are responded to within reasonable time.
Intervene in case ATM or any Node or Module is down for extended time.

Platform:
Unix, SUN Solaris & ORACLE

So my question is, will this job has any future growth in LINUX field or Banking domain?I want to update my knowledge too along with my job.
WHAT ARE CHANCES OF GROWTH IN THIS FIELD?

Please guide me properly I have no idea about this.
HAVE SOME FRIENDLY GUIDANCE PLEASE.
Well, did you read the "Platform" piece?? Doesn't mention Linux in there. Unix is NOT Linux. An RHCE (and an RHCT, as you've posted you have in the past), gives you hardly anything useful for managing Solaris servers.

Linux and Unix are both growing very fast, so yes, it's a good place to be. However, I agree with alli_yas, and find it VERY hard to believe that you've got a college degree and any sort of certification, based on your posts here. Your posts are hard to understand, and you don't seem to have a good grasp of the very basics of even a small system. If you're going for a job managing NUMEROUS systems, and on platforms you don't have experience with, on an enterprise class network, how do you think you're going to perform?

If this is your first job, do NOT think you're going to go in and just flail at things. Your boss(es) are absolutely NOT going to care what your skill set is, etc...you were hired, and when they say "get the system going", they mean RIGHT NOW. Not "Let me post a question and wait for a reply". You will quickly be replaced if you do that, and performing badly on a job will follow you a VERY long time.

Based on the job description you posted, and what you've posted here, the most truthful thing I can say, is that you're very unqualified for it. You will be doing the company a disservice by taking that job, and you will only get frustrated on a daily basis, because you'll be in way over your head. Do not go for a systems administration job of any sort just yet. Get a very entry-level tech support job, where you help folks with basic things on their desktops. Until you can learn to set up printers, diagnose (and fix) network problems, fix software glitches, etc., on a single-machine, you certainly won't be able to do it on a server, much less MULTIPLE servers.
 
Old 05-17-2010, 09:53 AM   #8
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Hi,

I have found that my knowledge has been enhanced by the experiences throughout my professional life. Only you can answer if the abilities to fulfill any position are available. You can take all the theoretical education but until you apply it practically and see the results will you know those abilities. Stumble one or twice on a particular subject to gain experiences with your abilities to diagnose or correct a problem then hopefully that experience can be expanded for future uses.

If you have researched the position then you know if you will meet the requirements and if they will build on your experience(s). You should gain some knowledge along the way but you should continue to enhance what is necessary to meet your goals. Sometimes a position is just a stepping stone to the next opportunity.
 
Old 05-17-2010, 10:12 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TB0ne View Post
Get a very entry-level tech support job ...
Reading between the impressive corporate-speak lines I figure that is exactly what this job is -- following scripted procedures and requiring little understanding beyond the steps of the procedures themselves.
 
Old 05-17-2010, 12:55 PM   #10
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Sounds perfect - take it.
 
Old 05-17-2010, 02:18 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by catkin View Post
Reading between the impressive corporate-speak lines I figure that is exactly what this job is -- following scripted procedures and requiring little understanding beyond the steps of the procedures themselves.
Yes, but a couple of lines:
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Coordinating with Support Team & Development teams.
Applying Software releases & patches, functional Testing of the same.
Intervene in case ATM or any Node or Module is down for extended time.
caught my eye. Coordinating between teams? Given the communications skills displayed here, not sure that would work well. Applying patches and testing them, and fixing something if it's down? Again, given what's transpired on here with reading/following directions, and learning quickly.....

Just don't think anything mission-critical, like bank ATM's, Oracle databases, and servers, are a good match here.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 12:22 AM   #12
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WHO ARE YOU TB0ne?

WHAT IS THIS?

“Based on the job description you posted, and what you've posted here, the most truthful thing I can say, is that you're very unqualified for it.

However, I agree with alli_yas, and find it VERY hard to believe that you've got a college degree and any sort of certification, based on your posts here. Your posts are hard to understand, and you don't seem to have a good grasp of the very basics of even a small system.”

JUST SHUT YOUR DIRTY MOUTH; I DON’T WANT YOU TO REPLY IN THIS WAY, I ASKED ABOUT JOB AND NOT ABOUT MY EDUCATIONAL LIFE.

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO SAY THAT?JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE MASTER AT YOUR FIELD; DO YOU GET LICENCE OF UNDERESTIMATING OTHERS?

IF YOU DON’T WANT TO REPLY JUST BE AWAY. I WOULD RATHER BE HAPPY BEING CONFUSED THAN HEARING SUCH WORDS FROM ARROGANT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

JUST STAY AWAY!
 
Old 05-18-2010, 12:24 AM   #13
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hi,

i have found that my knowledge has been enhanced by the experiences throughout my professional life. Only you can answer if the abilities to fulfill any position are available. You can take all the theoretical education but until you apply it practically and see the results will you know those abilities. Stumble one or twice on a particular subject to gain experiences with your abilities to diagnose or correct a problem then hopefully that experience can be expanded for future uses.

If you have researched the position then you know if you will meet the requirements and if they will build on your experience(s). You should gain some knowledge along the way but you should continue to enhance what is necessary to meet your goals. Sometimes a position is just a stepping stone to the next opportunity.
thanks!
 
Old 05-18-2010, 12:37 AM   #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meandsushil View Post
WHO ARE YOU TB0ne?

WHAT IS THIS?

“Based on the job description you posted, and what you've posted here, the most truthful thing I can say, is that you're very unqualified for it.

However, I agree with alli_yas, and find it VERY hard to believe that you've got a college degree and any sort of certification, based on your posts here. Your posts are hard to understand, and you don't seem to have a good grasp of the very basics of even a small system.”

JUST SHUT YOUR DIRTY MOUTH; I DON’T WANT YOU TO REPLY IN THIS WAY, I ASKED ABOUT JOB AND NOT ABOUT MY EDUCATIONAL LIFE.

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO SAY THAT?JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE MASTER AT YOUR FIELD; DO YOU GET LICENCE OF UNDERESTIMATING OTHERS?

IF YOU DON’T WANT TO REPLY JUST BE AWAY. I WOULD RATHER BE HAPPY BEING CONFUSED THAN HEARING SUCH WORDS FROM ARROGANT PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

JUST STAY AWAY!
I would not reply this rude if I were you. YOU are here to ask for help. And not others. So YOU need to be patient and understand what others are saying instead of taking it personally.
And I do think TBOne has a point. If you just can not give correct information in your posts let alone set the minimal things up, then you got to ask YOURSELF if you are fit for the job.
Banks may not pay you a hell lot but the job is going to be mission critical. A node down could mean a lot of losses to the industry as a whole. And you are the one responsible, you surely are going to be replaced. And this is the truth. And as rightly pointed out by TB, you have got your RH certification which certifies you for certain skills on RH linux, no more no less.
Managing Solaris systems is going to be different story. And I say this because I have worked with Solaris systems for some time after getting RH certification.
I would say calm down. Be patient and DO NOT be RUDE to people who are trying to help you out. And why does it hurt your ego if someone says you do not know much that you should? Take it way it should. Learn instead of starting flame wars here. They are not going to help you much. And if someone has been around LQ for so many years with more than 5K posts, he sure has better knowledge of things than you do.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 12:41 AM   #15
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And why not move it to Linux General or Non *NIX general? Its hardly going to help other newbies coming here taking in account such a specific question?
 
  


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