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Old 01-18-2007, 05:28 PM   #1
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gpl or open-source or proprietary...


hi,

most of people don't care if a software is gpl, open-source or even proprietary... they say, it is freedom of choice.

Let's take an example :

I code some nice freeware, let's say pacman4ever. I give pacman4ever code source to everybody for free, so they can improve it or learn or whatever...

Someone else, let's say evilcompanyltd, takes the code and creates thisprogsucks and sells it very expensive.
Evilcompanyltd never mention they used my code.
Evilcompanyltd never want to show their code, because they put "secret stuff" in it.

Will I be willing to continue to code again ?
 
Old 01-18-2007, 07:00 PM   #2
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Forget Evilcompanyltd, it all depends on the way you license pacman4ever.

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when we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not
price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you
have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for
this service if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it
if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it
in new free programs; and that you know you can do these things.
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
 
Old 01-18-2007, 07:08 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by linuxcbon
hi,

most of people don't care if a software is gpl, open-source or even proprietary... they say, it is freedom of choice.

Let's take an example :

I code some nice freeware, let's say pacman4ever. I give pacman4ever code source to everybody for free, so they can improve it or learn or whatever...

Someone else, let's say evilcompanyltd, takes the code and creates thisprogsucks and sells it very expensive.
Evilcompanyltd never mention they used my code.
Evilcompanyltd never want to show their code, because they put "secret stuff" in it.

Will I be willing to continue to code again ?
Je n'ai rien compris.....What exactly is your point?
 
Old 01-18-2007, 07:13 PM   #4
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et aussi, votre site ne marche pas!!!
Why do you put a link in your sig which a) most people here can't read, and b) Is not even working???

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MY BLOG (written in french only)
 
Old 01-19-2007, 12:09 AM   #5
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>> "Will I be willing to continue to code again ?"

"yes , you can ... but make very sure that you dont sell it and still do it for free ..."


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Old 01-19-2007, 03:05 AM   #6
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et aussi, votre site ne marche pas!!!
Why do you put a link in your sig which a) most people here can't read, and b) Is not even working???
Is LQ an english website only?
With all respect, sorry but its not because YOU can't read it that MOST people can't read it.
And why did you bother to click as it says "IN FRENCH" ? And the signature is in english so you should have understood it.

It works well on my machine.
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Old 01-19-2007, 04:02 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linuxcbon
most of people don't care if a software is gpl, open-source or even proprietary... they say, it is freedom of choice.
A gratuitous affirmation, many people do care.
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I code some nice freeware, let's say pacman4ever. I give pacman4ever code source to everybody for free, so they can improve it or learn or whatever...
You don't tell about what license you choose to release your code.
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Someone else, let's say evilcompanyltd, takes the code and creates thisprogsucks and sells it very expensive.
There is nothing evil trying to make money.
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Evilcompanyltd never mention they used my code.
That may be your fault if you didn't specify this requirement on your license.
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Evilcompanyltd never want to show their code, because they put "secret stuff" in it.
Most licenses (outside the GPL) allow linking Open Source code with proprietary code, and keep that code secret. If the company want to keep its property, that's up to them.
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Will I be willing to continue to code again ?
I hope so. Expertise is forged by experience.
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MY BLOG (written in french only)
Not sure advertising a French blog which happen to be "on strike" is a good idea ....
 
Old 01-19-2007, 04:04 AM   #8
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Not sure advertising a French blog which happen to be "on strike" is a good idea ....
Typical french
 
Old 01-19-2007, 04:07 AM   #9
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Is LQ an english website only?
Indeed, have a look at the rules. http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/rules.html

All posts should be in English. This allows our moderators to spot potentially malicious material.

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It works well on my machine.
??
Your site is currently useless.
 
Old 01-19-2007, 04:43 AM   #10
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Indeed, have a look at the rules. http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/rules.html

All posts should be in English. This allows our moderators to spot potentially malicious material.
Personnaly I only see english words in this post.
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Your site is currently useless.
I think you mixed up two persons its not my website
2 days ago this blog had interesting articles and I went there.

How do you decide if a website is usefull or not?
 
Old 01-19-2007, 04:45 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by jlliagre
Your site is currently useless.
Currently? But that would imply... oh nvm.

What is everyones focus on this guys sig anyway?
 
Old 01-19-2007, 06:01 AM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nx5000
Personnaly I only see english words in this post.
That wasn't my point. I was just replying to your question.
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I think you mixed up two persons its not my website
I did, sorry about that.
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How do you decide if a website is usefull or not?
A website on strike is certainly useless to me and I believe for the rest of us, isn't it ?
 
Old 01-19-2007, 03:14 PM   #13
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Which license should I take for pacman4ever ?

I wouldn't like people using my work without my permission.
And even if I permit, what will it bring me that other people use my code for free to make money ?
 
Old 01-19-2007, 03:52 PM   #14
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Which license should I take for pacman4ever ?
Your own, non Open Source Initiative compliant license.
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I wouldn't like people using my work without my permission.
That's against the Open Source philosophy.
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And even if I permit, what will it bring me that other people use my code for free to make money ?
Pride, maybe.
 
Old 01-20-2007, 06:42 AM   #15
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In my opinion , if I put my code under license which is :

- open-source : I give up all my rights and I get no benefits, except being proud of being copied for free.

- gpl : I protect my rights and people are not allowed to steal my work.
But is there a way to know if a closed-source software is using my code ?
And if so, how can I stop those people to do so ?
And how can I get compensation for theft ?
So I think it is very hard to protect GPL code from theft.

- closed-source : the best way to protect my work. But people cannot derivate new softwares from it.

I would like to know your opinion.
 
  


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