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Old 12-17-2012, 11:00 PM   #16
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Thanks @TB0ne. Well, grooming isn't at all my problem. I always go with proper looks and preparation. But to be honest, I do not follow the crowd. I wear or looks whatever I feel comfortable, not just for sake of impressing the interviewer. However I have long hair (obviously not that long like woman, but upto shoulders) and I take extra care of my hair than others. Long hair suits me according to my hair dresser and I love it. But sometimes when I am in the battle field, I see others with short hairs, and I feel that my long hair could be a minus point. Sometimes it's depressing.

@Blinker_Fluid: I think I have enough knowledge of my field. But what about other technologies? I feel, without having practical experience, you can never remain confident and cannot satisfy the interviewer. As I said theoritical knowledge isn't just enough to get IN. Every company uses some different technology, which isn't possible for you to learn just for an interview.

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Old 12-18-2012, 12:38 AM   #17
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Wow... today I got one more interview call (from one of my dream company) for the position of Unix administrator and they want that in addition to Unix, I must have very good experience in websphare & weblogic ... O God.. are you there & listening??

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Old 12-18-2012, 12:50 AM   #18
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Wow... today I got one more interview call (from one of my dream company)
Advice: Tie your hair in a pony tail. Also, the pony tail shouldn't be left hanging. Roll and tie up the hanging tail back in the rubber band.
It is nice to know that you love your hair, but I don't think there is any need to "show it off" in an interview. After all, you don't know the mentality/culture of the interviewer! Better safe than sorry.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:08 AM   #19
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Advice: cut them as short as possible :P At least if you don't get the job you won't spend money for cutting them for a while
 
Old 12-18-2012, 03:30 PM   #20
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Thanks @TB0ne. Well, grooming isn't at all my problem. I always go with proper looks and preparation. But to be honest, I do not follow the crowd. I wear or looks whatever I feel comfortable, not just for sake of impressing the interviewer.
You say you go with 'proper looks', then say 'I wear or looks whatever I feel comfortable'. ??? Unless you feel comfortable in a shirt/tie/slacks, that could be a reason right there.
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However I have long hair (obviously not that long like woman, but upto shoulders) and I take extra care of my hair than others. Long hair suits me according to my hair dresser and I love it. But sometimes when I am in the battle field, I see others with short hairs, and I feel that my long hair could be a minus point. Sometimes it's depressing.
Either you want a job or you don't. If you DO, then quit listening to a hair dresser, and dress/look like you want the job. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you cut your hair...it WILL grow again, won't it??

If you feel it could be a minus point, address it. Otherwise, get used to being disappointed quite a bit, until you find a job. That's your choice.
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@Blinker_Fluid: I think I have enough knowledge of my field. But what about other technologies? I feel, without having practical experience, you can never remain confident and cannot satisfy the interviewer. As I said theoritical knowledge isn't just enough to get IN. Every company uses some different technology, which isn't possible for you to learn just for an interview.
I know you addressed this to someone else, but anytime you think you have enough knowledge...you don't. If someone doesn't want to learn (and KEEP learning), they're not going to be around very long. You can NEVER have enough knowledge. And, you shouldn't be learning something just to pass an interview. Learn what you WANT to do...learn it VERY WELL, and you will get a job doing what you want to do. A bonus: you'll be VERY well qualified (and compensated) for your work.
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Wow... today I got one more interview call (from one of my dream company) for the position of Unix administrator and they want that in addition to Unix, I must have very good experience in websphare & weblogic
That's great news...but do you HAVE experience with websphere and weblogic?? If you don't, don't bother going on the interview. They WILL ask about it, and one of two things will happen:
  • They'll see VERY quickly that you're not qualified, won't hire you, and won't consider you for future positions, since you wasted their time by applying for a job you're not qualified for. Human resource departments DO keep track of things.
  • You'll GET the job, and (since you lack the skills needed to do it), will get tossed out the door quickly.
Neither is good....it WILL haunt you for years to come. If you are qualified, then it's up to you to decide how badly you want the job, and what you're willing to do to get it. Much luck to you, in whatever path you choose.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 07:06 PM   #21
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There is always something you don't know. Some level of minutia, some random fact, command, flag, detail, sometimes the question isn't about the answer it's about what you do next. Accept the fact you don't know everything and never will. The question becomes what do you do next. Are you capable of learning/finding/resourcing to find the answer.
Absolutely spot on. When I do techy interviews I'm more interested in how people deal with what they don't know. And the biggest mistake is to bluster or bullshit. 'I don't know, however <insert explanation of how you would proceed here>' is what I'm after.

You can't bluff a computer. Or bullshit it, intimidate it, pursuade it or lie to it. You either know what you are doing or you don't, and if you can't admit you don't know something you can't learn. If what you don't know is self correcting then you're a winner in my book.
 
Old 12-19-2012, 10:16 PM   #22
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I'm more interested in how people deal with what they don't know. And the biggest mistake is to bluster or bullshit. 'I don't know, however <insert explanation of how you would proceed here>' is what I'm after.
@baldy3105: Agree with you. It's really important that how you deal with what you do not know. I really use 'I don't know...' if I don't know anything and I think that being straight-forward may make a good impact on interviewer, but now a days I feel, it's not true! A diplomatic answer (or just a game of words) may be helpful to keep your chances alive.

I think I should improve this quality...

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Old 12-20-2012, 02:02 PM   #23
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It's always difficult to know what went wrong, but often these things can be decided on the silliest things that you have no control over. The winning candidate could have ticked any one of a number of personal preferences, a name they prefer, or some one they were more attracted to, or someone who looks like their father or they could have a preference for taller people, or someone with different hair. People will always insist that they are not biased in this way but its mostly subliminal.
 
Old 12-26-2012, 08:51 AM   #24
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Indeed, it can have absolutely nothing to do with "you." I've got three slots to fill and five qualified candidates. I'm going to make offers to three, figure one of them will say "no," hope one of the other two will say "yes," and hold on to the rest of the resumes. So it goes.

Don't think of it as "I got rejected." You didn't. This is sales, and sales is a game. The product that you're selling is your professional services. You win a round, you lose a round, but don't turn into Willy Loman over it. The buyer didn't decide to buy from you at this time. That's the full extent of it. "Sux, yeah." Now, move on. You've still got a box of brushes to move, and you can see people everywhere around you with scuffed shoes and tousled hair, all of whom obviously need a brush. Resume selling.

Another tip: don't sell to just one prospect at a time, i.e. sequentially. Don't set up just one interview and then waste your time standing by the phone, hoping and praying that it'll ring. The odds are never in your favor, and you can never control the "denominator (y)" of that probability-ratio, x/y. But you certainly can control the "numerator!"

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Old 01-04-2013, 01:58 AM   #25
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One more interview scheduled in upcoming days...
Also sacrificed my hairs 2 days ago
 
Old 01-04-2013, 09:19 AM   #26
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Now you can introspect on the areas needing improvement.

OK
 
Old 01-04-2013, 11:27 AM   #27
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I think that you should soberly read the entirety of this thread and consider why, given an ever-growing stable of "Linux systems administrators" to choose from, you might find yourself being passed-over. It's not the pony-tail. I very cautiously suggest that it just might be, well, attitude. And that this attitude is quite clear in the text of the post. Salesmen must have poise, but not attitude. They are selling, and in this case the market is profoundly competitive (read: over-supplied with people having more or less the same credentials who are looking for work; a buyer's market).

I don't intend to debate this: there's nothing more to be said, other than this heads-up. But remember this ... the labor market for "Linux administrators" is right now stuffed. You might need to broaden the set of jobs that you are applying to ... to the widest possible scope you can justify without lying about it.

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Old 01-08-2013, 04:11 AM   #28
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if your in the USA it's likely your interview was just to disqualify you
so they can inport some one from Inda who will do that job for $10,00 a year

it's the latest rage in cutting wages disqualify Americans so a slave can be inported
 
Old 01-08-2013, 12:44 PM   #29
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@All: while it may be provocative to some or an open declaration of war to others, expressing oneself is limited only by common sense, netiquette and the LQ Rules. Community-based moderation is at the core of what makes LQ great. So should a member object to something another member has posted, or the way something was posted, they should feel free to participate actively and correct things. Before you post please ask yourself what misconceptions a certain point of view is based on. If you can determine them then often other can too. Silently ignoring posts can at times be a good way to avoid dealing with less than desirable attitudes, the misinformed or the deliberately inciting.

@rob.rice: you probably don't remember it but you already have been given two warnings for unwanted behavior. I suggest you edit out the "slave" part from your post to keep the peace and avoid further provocations,
TIA.

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Old 01-08-2013, 02:37 PM   #30
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@All: while it may be provocative to some or an open declaration of war to others, expressing oneself is limited only by common sense, netiquette and the LQ Rules. Community-based moderation is at the core of what makes LQ great. So should a member object to something another member has posted, or the way something was posted, they should feel free to participate actively and correct things. Before you post please ask yourself what misconceptions a certain point of view is based on. If you can determine them then often other can too. Silently ignoring posts can at times be a good way to avoid dealing with less than desirable attitudes, the misinformed or the deliberately inciting.

@rob.rice: you probably don't remember it but you already have been given two warnings for unwanted behavior. I suggest you edit out the "slave" part from your post to keep the peace and avoid further provocations,
TIA.
ok what word do you suggest I replace slave with what other word means to be owned by by someone else
these people being imported are in fact and deed are owned by there employers
they are still employes at will that can be fired for any cause and sent back to where ever they came from
even though they are here legally they are still subject to the abuses a slave would be subject to
it's not a provocation it just an inconvenient fact that has developed in the US
labor market

it's not my fault this outrage has developed nether is it my fault it has come to include high skilled white collar workers
isn't speaking out ageist an outrage the first step in doing something about it
remember for evil to triumph good men must do nothing
are you asking me to support this practice by keeping silent about it ?

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...-united-states
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...57316858,d.dmQ
http://monthlyreview.org/2007/01/01/...erican-workers

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