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shivaa 12-15-2012 01:29 AM

Got rejected !!
 
Hi everyone!
Today I appeared for an interview for position of Solaris Admin. I was damn prepared and very sure about success.... But got rejected! :(
Why it happens when you know thousand questions (and ofcourse their answers), but he asks the 1001th one, which you do not know...?

dugan 12-15-2012 10:36 AM

Make sure you know the 1001th one for next time.

shivaa 12-15-2012 11:02 AM

I think I was... but he asked 1002th :)

linosaurusroot 12-15-2012 11:18 AM

I know the feeling. I failed to get into Google this year - I had a day with 5 * 45min interviews. Only Goldman Sachs and Bloomberg have grilled me so much.

shivaa 12-15-2012 11:29 AM

Sometimes people says, it's all about your day! If it's good, you will be IN without facing much, else you will be out, even after having a good knowledge & skills set. It's somehow depressing!
But I think System Admin is really a very vast field, and hundreds of technologies are their... which you cannot learn!

kooru 12-16-2012 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shivaa (Post 4849696)
Hi everyone!
Today I appeared for an interview for position of Solaris Admin. I was damn prepared and very sure about success.... But got rejected! :(
Why it happens when you know thousand questions (and ofcourse their answers), but he asks the 1001th one, which you do not know...?

The interview can be very irritating.
Sometimes you find the fanatical project manager that know (unbelievably) almost nothing about the position which you are, sometimes you got rejected because on 100 questions you have answered accurately only 99 of these, sometimes you can be a genius but for them your dress/hairs/voice disgusts..

Often, clearly, you are not the right person for that position.

I don't know as your interview has really gone, but NEVER be sure about success ;)

shivaa 12-16-2012 03:24 AM

Does grooming really matters? Do they prefer well groomed person? To be honest, I do not believe in this philosophy, as there's no relation between your looks/dressup and your technical skills. Ultimately you'll be there to drive there IT infra smoothly, not for any show-off... But why they do not understand it.

TheIndependentAquarius 12-16-2012 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by shivaa (Post 4850253)
To be honest, I do not believe in this philosophy, as there's no relation between your looks/dressup and your technical skills.

Well, IMO if you stink or appear shabby in an interview, the interviewer may feel
that you are a "careless"/"lazy" person, and you may treat your work as you treat
yourself.

shivaa 12-16-2012 06:27 AM

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IMO if you stink or appear shabby in an interview...
C'mon! No one would be stink or appear shabby when he/she knows that someone is going to judge him. But my point was that does it make any difference if you groom like a typical professional (in formals) or you just go with a casual look (in jeans/t-shirt with long hairs & some beard) with no special preparation with your looks.

TheIndependentAquarius 12-16-2012 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by shivaa (Post 4850304)
a casual look (in jeans/t-shirt with long hairs & some beard) with no special preparation with your looks.

This is subjective. Interviewers of our generation may not mind it,
but if you go like this in front of the 60 year old vice president
he might feel that you don't respect the job, company, and him.

Beard shouldn't be a problem, but long hair for men??
Cultural difference!

AnanthaP 12-16-2012 09:50 PM

What is your own feeling (discomfort) about why you were rejected?

This will give you the area to concentrate upon. Eg. Well prepared but needed to less bookish. . Weakness in specific area - scripting, networking, anything. If this approach clues you in, then concentrate on those areas for future interviews etc.

OK

shivaa 12-16-2012 10:10 PM

Well, looks is not my porblem. I look quite decent :)

Apart from this, actually every organization uses difference technologies. I started my career with Sun Solaris and NetApp. I have good and enough experience in Solaris plus NetApp both. But that company asked me about VCS/VxVM (though they needed a Solaris Admin, but didn't ask a single question on Solaris). According to the JD, I had studied VCS/VxVM but theory is'nt just enough to get IN.
Problem is that how much one should study? If you prepare on one technology, the second one gets skipped... I do not understand what to do then..

AnanthaP 12-17-2012 03:19 AM

Yes it is really a problem. To get experience, you need experience. What to do?

But all the tasks listed Veritas/VCS etc are entry level live DBA tasks. So you have to understand that solaris knowledge only gets you in the door (they dont have to train you on the basics) but you must have skills in data centre operations. Things like log maintenance, analysis, backup, media maintenance schemes, system labelling, rotation etc.

Practically you have to take a call whether the interview was standard or not. ie. do you want to learn more solaris or concentrate on operations skills?

OK

OK

Blinker_Fluid 12-17-2012 01:43 PM

There is always something you don't know. Some level of minutia, some random fact, command, flag, detail, sometimes the question isn't about the answer it's about what you do next. Accept the fact you don't know everything and never will. The question becomes what do you do next. Are you capable of learning/finding/resourcing to find the answer.

You mentioned this was a Solaris job but the questions were all VCS/VxVM, were you able to relay a knowledge of cluster concepts and Volume management? If you weren't able to provide an answer to "how do you determine cluster status?" (hastatus) were you able to say I'm not familiar with Veritas Clustering but in past experiences I was able to determine if resources (Disk/IP/volumes/mountpoints/processes) were healthy by doing something. If they ask a question like "you have a mountpoint that won't mount, how do you troubleshoot this?" Are you familiar with the dependencies that a mount point require? Are you able to walk through basic processes for a mountpoint that won't mount with UFS or ZFS?

Questions aren't always about the answer, one of my former co-workers called them the asshole test, if you're an ass and I don't want to work with you then we won't hire you. If however you come off as someone I would like to work with and have the ability to learn we can teach you.

TB0ne 12-17-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul (Post 4850319)
This is subjective. Interviewers of our generation may not mind it, but if you go like this in front of the 60 year old vice president he might feel that you don't respect the job, company, and him.

I'm in the middle of this.

I DO expect people to be well groomed, bathed, and well dressed. However, I don't mind long hair/beards as long as they're GROOMED...clean, combed, and trimmed up is fine; looking like you're an extra in "The Hobbit"...not so much. First interview, I expect someone to be dressed neatly, at least. Clothes ironed, shirt/tie, but a suit is overkill, to me. The 60 year old VP will expect it though, which I think is nonsense. But if someone comes in who looks like they slept in their clothes, hasn't bathed/stinks, or shows up in jeans, we're done right there, and I'll show you the door.

Yes, we work in IT. However, when you go meet customers, you're representing ME, and they will associate you with my company/name. Show up looking like a bum, and I'm certainly going to assume that I'll have to watch you like a hawk. If you can't at least show some effort to LOOK like you want the job, why on earth would I assume you're going to behave better AFTER you're hired??
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Beard shouldn't be a problem, but long hair for men?? Cultural difference!
Agreed.


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