Google code shutting down!

smeezekitty · 03-14-2015, 11:09 PM

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My point is you cannot trust either free providers or paid providers.

Let me put it this way. Even if a paid provider stopped their service tomorrow, there is nothing I can do about it pracically even though there is a theoritical legal right.

Thank you!

This is what I am trying to say.

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A lot of times the cost of enforcing the right in terms of time, money and effort may not be worth the fight.

This is true in most cases really. Legal fees will outway any benefit unless dealing with high value stuff.

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First, the belief that he/she is entitled to keep using a free service. Believe it or not, a company is not obligated to continue a free service after starting it. Being foolish enough to use any of Google's offerings does not entitle the user to anything, except being exploited by Google.

A paid service is really no safer. I don't know why people don't understand it
but paid services can go away too

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Second is the belief that it is wrong for a company to stop a service, because continuing to provide a free service is the right thing to do. Google is not an altruistic company. It is an avaricious and dishonest company that makes money by collecting and stealing every bit of information they can get hold of and selling it. Mentioning Google and philanthropy in the same sentence is ridiculous.

In this case it IS wrong.

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It is an avaricious and dishonest company that makes money by collecting and stealing every bit of information they can get hold of and selling it.

This is very true. They have proven this again and again.

My complaint isn't so much the service being discontinued. The gripe I have is the loss of data.
If they just made it read only and kept the archive up, I would just say "oh well".

This is also a good demonstration on why I will never trust cloud storage.
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vharishankar · 03-14-2015, 11:32 PM

smeezekitty, I think what they are trying to say is that google have anyway given you advance notice to shift your data out, so you have nothing to complain about. OK, fair enough.

Also that data loss cannot be a ground for a lawsuit if you don't have a privity of contract with the party. I think this is also something that might vary depending on the local laws, but anyway I accept this in principle as well.

Free services are a contentious issue when it comes to the law. I think the law is still evolving with respect to Internet services, cloud etc. free or not.

I too have the same policy with respect to "cloud". Never trust your private data with it, especially not critical data.

My main objection is to the wrongful notion that paid services are somehow inherently more trustable or future-proof than free ones -- so the 'you got it free, so what are you complaining about' is actually irrelevant to the issue.

273 · 03-15-2015, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by vharishankar

smeezekitty, I think what they are trying to say is that google have anyway given you advance notice to shift your data out, so you have nothing to complain about. OK, fair enough.

Also that data loss cannot be a ground for a lawsuit if you don't have a privity of contract with the party. I think this is also something that might vary depending on the local laws, but anyway I accept this in principle as well.

Free services are a contentious issue when it comes to the law. I think the law is still evolving with respect to Internet services, cloud etc. free or not.

I too have the same policy with respect to "cloud". Never trust your private data with it, especially not critical data.

My main objection is to the wrongful notion that paid services are somehow inherently more trustable or future-proof than free ones -- so the 'you got it free, so what are you complaining about' is actually irrelevant to the issue.

I'm with you until your final conclusion. Paid services are not "more trustable" because they are in some way guaranteed not to stop they are more trustable because if you're using them for business purposes you have a contract with them so you won't be sued if they stop and if you're using them for personal reasons you have a right to complain and sue if you feel it is worth it.
Again, the price you pay for a "free" service is that it can be terminated any time with no warning. That is the actual price you are really paying.
I don't think I even need to reiterate my points about what Google is.