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Old 11-28-2006, 06:44 PM   #1
zamoti
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Goodbye Linux and good riddance


Ahem.

I've been working on and off with Linux for the past four years. I've set up and used Slackware, RedHat, Mandrake and Ubuntu. I've messed with Knoppix and Helix and thoughout it all, I've found one common thread: they are all [a bit difficult for me to use].

That's right. I hate Linux. In fact, I think Linux [is not very good]; however I don't think it's entirely to blame on it's own.

The reason that I hate Linux is because it's 100% non-intiuitive. Nothing makes sense, nothing works out of the box (except for perhaps Ubuntu and Mandrake), compiling is a pain in the [bottom] and searching for precompiled packages from endless FTP servers is a waste of time. I used to think, "Yeah [poo to] Windows, I'm goin' over to the other side!" Now I realize that I'm either going to stay with Windows or have to use a corny-bottomed Mac. But I'm tired. I'm tired of searching endlessly for an answer to why my video won't display right, tired of trying to find answer to why I have a kernel panic message and tired of being frustrated. I'm sick of screwing around with VI, searching for and editing text files, I don't want to do this anymore. I've done this all when I was 19--when I had nothing better to do and no job!

This points to the other half of why I hate Linux. I am so [terribly] sick to death of asking a question in a forum (be it this one or others) and getting a RTFM back. I suppose the namesake of this site is correct. It's not linuxanswers.org because there aren't too many solid answers here. I'm sure there are lots of helpful people out there and I mean them no offense, but I wish they would have chimed in on some of the questions I've asked in the past. I'm so sick to [blinking] death of the [kind soul] who pops in to say something useless like "well, you need to read the man pages on lilo". No [excrement] sherlock, but I'm an adult with a job a family and a life. I don't have the time to go sorting through endless examples of exotic configurations that don't apply to my situation. If I did, I wouldn't be asking a question. I mean, for those who do put the (seemingly) obligatory RTFM posts in here, do you really think you're helping someone? Do you really think that they've never even tried looking for an answer?

I finally took the old PIII 833 heap I've been wrestling with to the dump tonight and threw all of my old distro CDs in the bag with it. I'm just done. This event was precipitated by several failed installs of Slackware 11.

Please note, I'm not looking for comments. Leave 'em if you want; I could give a crap at this point.

Last edited by XavierP; 11-29-2006 at 04:07 AM.
 
Old 11-28-2006, 06:56 PM   #2
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Sorry to hear it. But the best advice to any computer user is to use what works best for you and meets your need, be it Windows/Mac/Linux/Solaris/Dos/Pen&Paper. It really does take a certain kind of person to enjoy linux since it is an ever evolving, changing, growing operating system.

Good luck to you and no hard feelings!
 
Old 11-28-2006, 07:13 PM   #3
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If you really have several years of exposure to Linux, it's probably too late. You can leave it behind, but you've seen the "truth," and you'll never really be happy away from it.

It's like the proverb about raising children, "Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it."

I hope by the time you return your attitude will be a little better, it'll help you a lot.
 
Old 11-28-2006, 07:31 PM   #4
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Well i find it kinda strange that your post count is just 5 and threads 2 including this one, the other thread here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=495924 and you're already sick of posting. Didnt' get answers, that's a lie, atleast here at LQ, dunno about other sites where you asked for help.

You have no right to judge LQ by its name or anything. This is a volunteer site not a service. People come here to ask and answer questions, not to owe anything to anybody. We never asked you to try Linux.

So you had problems and we all have, some get solved some don't. That don't mean stop trying. Oh yeah i forgot you got a family, a job,a life and what are we, just some bluecollar snobs who don't have all these right?

No hard feelings though,if you didn't find any solutions, go RTFM

Don't come back.

NOTE: The views expressed are of my personal nature, it has got nothing to do with LQ.
 
Old 11-28-2006, 07:45 PM   #5
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Bye..

I'm finally at peace after my switch to Ubuntu 6.10. No more spyware, no constant concerns of viruses, no freezing up, no crashing, and most of my hardware works perfectly out of the box. The only thing I have to configure is my Tv Tuner, which once I learned how to set it up, takes me all of 3min. If Linux(whatever flavor), wasn't working for you, did you ever think it might be you?

IGF
 
Old 11-28-2006, 08:18 PM   #6
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>> "I finally took the old PIII 833 heap I've been wrestling with to the dump tonight ..."

you should have them given away to someone else , these things can make wonders sometimes ...


>> "This event was precipitated by several failed installs of Slackware 11 ..."

why not just pick one distro(for example ubuntu) , install it and just use it plainly ... infact windows users dont need to know and setup anything(for example ftp , http , mail etc etc) ... at least thats how i use my windows once upon a time ... ...


//stick with ubuntu ...


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Old 11-28-2006, 08:26 PM   #7
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I wonder if anyone still uses the phrase "PEBKAC" (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair). It would apply perfectly in this situation. Hell, even in windows and mac, if you read and learn what to do, everything is alot easier and things go smoother.
 
Old 11-28-2006, 08:31 PM   #8
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Well, let's see. windoze sucks snot; finds inumerable ways to trash itself, etc, etc, etc.

You don't like Linux because what it requires you to learn is more that you are willing to tolerate.

My suggestion: try Mac OS-X to see if that works better for you. It's certainly more stable that winders; not as problematic for you as Linux.

Perhaps, some day in the future, you will wish you had a way to control what gets installed, how it gets installed, etc. Then you will remember Linux. By then, Linux will have grown, you will have more options, and perhaps one of them will suit you better than the current offering.

Good luck to you.
 
Old 11-28-2006, 08:40 PM   #9
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Geez zamoti, Linux is just going to fold up and go away now that you're abandoning it. What will we do now?

You've made 5 whole posts here and you dare to make insulting statements about LQ? I have two choice words for you but that would violate the rules and spirit of LQ so I'll refrain from typing them out here.

I'll just never be able to sleep tonight knowing that you couldn't figure out how to install or use something millions of other people have.
 
Old 11-28-2006, 08:42 PM   #10
alred
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actually good idea ...

try macosx and decides whether is it worth coming back to linux ...

i believe there will be a time when users start looking into every aspect(may or may not exactly computer related) in desktop computing and considering them as a whole ...


//now , which system does it best and plainly ...


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Old 11-28-2006, 08:52 PM   #11
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While I understand how you can be frustrated, you're wrong by saying that Linux is crap. Linux (and to a bigger picture UNIX) is the standard by which other operating systems are designed as it's the great grand-daddy of them all. If it wasn't for UNIX there would not be a Windows (which came from DOS, which came from CP/M, which came from UNIX) or a Macintosh. If it wasn't for UNIX you would never be able to view a web page because there wouldn't be an Internet for you to view the web page The Internet (for example) is built on UNIX and Linux so it's not crap. I've been fortunate enough as a support engineer to work for PC companies, UNIX companies, and Apple and I've learned each type of system has it's place and purpose. Windows and Macintoshes exist because not everyone needs or wants the robustness and complexity of UNIX. On the other hand Windows and Macs are better geared toward people who want USE computers more than UNDERSTAND them.

UNIX is NOT for people who are looking for the quick answer and because there is no formal support with the free distros you obviously will have to do the research yourself or depend on the community...or buy UNIX support so you can ask someone what you need to know. But at least you know why computer guys get the big bucks....

P.S. Nice touch to Rick for quoting Proverbs 22:5 (NWT)
 
Old 11-28-2006, 08:53 PM   #12
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Quote:
Goodbye Linux and good riddance
Your experience is your experience. Mine is different.
If you really find Linux to be useless you definately should not use it. Perhaps you are aware there are people on this forum that feel Windows is useless and they refuse to use it. AFAIC you are both welcome to your opinions as I am to mine.
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I've been working on and off with Linux for the past four years...I've found one common thread: they are all frustrating pieces of crap.
Again my experience is not the same. I am often impressed with Linux distributions I try.
Rule number one is to never attempt to replace what you are already using cold turkey. You should be deciding to use something different based on your own personal knowledge.
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The reason that I hate Linux is because it's 100% non-intiuitive. Nothing makes sense, nothing works out of the box
This sentance alone would shows why after 4 years and multiple distributions you still find no comfort. No software "makes sense". You just have to learn to use it, or not. There is a very good website for people who want to believe Linux is Windows. Linux is not Windows, Windows is not Linux, 'nuff said.
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I'm sick of screwing around with VI, searching for and editing text files, I don't want to do this anymore.
You truely could not find Pico or Nano (if you prefer text mode), or a GUI text editor, in 4 years, that you prefered. Excuse me but ROFLOL.

And the icing on the cake about how no answer is good enough for you and you don't care anyway.
Should I call "troll"?

Last edited by 2damncommon; 11-28-2006 at 08:54 PM.
 
Old 11-28-2006, 09:05 PM   #13
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I just love these "I'm taking my toys and going home" threads. LOL
 
Old 11-28-2006, 09:05 PM   #14
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i think its better to say to him that theres no sense in running windows(or use windows for personal reasons) if there is linux and linux does matured to a point right now(after all those fucking brain-dead years) where it is catered for common personal computing usages ...

just make sure you got all your linux stuffs right first , after that , you just use it plainly ...

if for some obscure reasons you are thinking of going slightly deeper than just use it plainly , you will be glad that you have choosen linux in the first place ...


//please come back ... son ...


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Old 11-28-2006, 09:30 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by alred
i think its better to say to him that theres no sense in running windows(or use windows for personal reasons) if there is linux and linux does matured to a point right now(after all those fucking brain-dead years) where it is catered for common personal computing usages ...

just make sure you got all your linux stuffs right first , after that , you just use it plainly ...

if for some obscure reasons you are thinking of going slightly deeper than just use it plainly , you will be glad that you have choosen linux in the first place ...


//please come back ... son ...


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Why? If he wants to use Windows or OS/X let him use them. Why should we care?
 
  


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