GeneralThis forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!
Welcome to LinuxQuestions.org, a friendly and active Linux Community.
You are currently viewing LQ as a guest. By joining our community you will have the ability to post topics, receive our newsletter, use the advanced search, subscribe to threads and access many other special features. Registration is quick, simple and absolutely free. Join our community today!
Note that registered members see fewer ads, and ContentLink is completely disabled once you log in.
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you need to reset your password, click here.
Having a problem logging in? Please visit this page to clear all LQ-related cookies.
Introduction to Linux - A Hands on Guide
This guide was created as an overview of the Linux Operating System, geared toward new users as an exploration tour and getting started guide, with exercises at the end of each chapter.
For more advanced trainees it can be a desktop reference, and a collection of the base knowledge needed to proceed with system and network administration. This book contains many real life examples derived from the author's experience as a Linux system and network administrator, trainer and consultant. They hope these examples will help you to get a better understanding of the Linux system and that you feel encouraged to try out things on your own.
Click Here to receive this Complete Guide absolutely free.
Ok this bothers me; I'm sitting next to this guy at work and he's trouble shooting with this customer on the phone over some issue with his OS...
and finally he gives up and says honestly you should just try switching to Linux. He says "its a much better product, more stable and secure and there's alot more you can do with it for less" Okay so all of that I agreed with but then he stops and says "Micro$oft just wants your money and even though I work on Windows here at work I run all Open Source software at home...I wont support companies who are just interested in profits"
That part just bugged me because here he is at his cubicle wearing Nike tennis shoes, drinking Starbucks coffee, talked to another employee about a game on his PS2 which is made by SONY...etc. Every large corporation is interested in profits so that was just the wrong thing to say in my opinion. Its like vegetarians I know who say its unethical to eat meat and they have leather coats or shoes. Eh? Excuse me what did you say? Every point he made was valid until he got into the discussion on businesses wanting your money. His internet and viewing pleasure is provided by a cable company that had a large monopoly on the city until Direct TV and Dish became a worthy alternative. So it just urks me when people use that $$$ as a reason why they dont buy something or support something. If he wouldve just came out and said "hey Linux is just cooler and more interested" I wouldve let it slide.
Originally posted by jaz That part just bugged me because here he is at his cubicle wearing Nike tennis shoes, drinking Starbucks coffee, talked to another employee about a game on his PS2 which is made by SONY...etc.
there are no free shoes which are convenient to get and are acceptable in the work place. when he purchased his starbucks coffee there probably wasn't a free mom and pop coffee shop right beside it. the alternatives to ps2, xbox and gamecube, certainly aren't free.
That tech didn't like the idea of earning a bit of cash, I guess. I am completely for using Linux, but if I was doing what my friend,Kevin does for a living (as a small businessman, driven by his own work - no work, no paycheque), I'd never tell people to switch to Linux (at least not too loudly). He has a computer shop. He seels hardware and services machines. If he didn't have clients using what was already on their machines, he'd likely have no money. All he really does is troubleshoot things that always go wrong with the Windows OS. Virus problems. Poorly written spyware crippling the system. Drivers fighting for IRQs. Dumb things like Zone Alarm leaving crap on the drive that renders it unbootable, god forbid you uninstall it. Other crap like that. He makes good money off this garbage. Without it, he'd have to do something else for a living.
That guy was an idiot, obviously.
As far as giving a real reason for switching, I don't want to and I don't have to. I switched. If someone else does as well, that's great! They'll be glad they did.
I think that the statement about profits should relate to the fact that Microsoft is a convicted monopolist which makes abnormally high profits by engaging in illegal actions. There is nothing illegal or immoral with Nike's, Sony's, or Starbuck's profits.
1. You don't have to defrag. Lin knows how to defrag itself.
2. You don't have to scan for virus.
3. You don't have to buy Lin. But when you buy, it's like U$ 10 or something.
4. You don't have to have Norton doing misterious stuff inside the misterious win registry.
5. You don't have to download and run cracks, serials, keygens and the like.
6. You can open, create and edit any msoffice documents you want, without having it installed.
7. You can listen/watch any multimedia file you want with Lin.
8. You don't like, and never will, the blue screen of death and their relatives (illegal operations).
9. You don't agree with MS policies. Even if you support/use other brands/products playing by the same market rules.
10. You don't believe when bill says win won't hurt your privacy.
11. You see the use/support of a particular OS like not only a personal choice, but a political one with further implications.
12. Lin let you see what's going on inside your pc. But if you don't want to know, it's ok, too. Lin will work anyway.
13. Lin is funny.
Last edited by bruno buys; 05-02-2004 at 05:11 PM.
no one is obliged to switch to linux. Everybody has it's own reasons except security and all the stuff you are used to hear....I don't consider it worthy to try to convince someone to use linux, because if someone doesn't see something evident, you will have to talk a lot, i don't like to talk a lot... If they are really considering to switch, they will...for their reasons.
If everyone was using Linux, it would degenerate into something like windows, perhaps even worse. Its better that the majority of people don`t use Linux, because it gives us "gurus" a super fast, clean OS thats not clogged up with viri and ads, whereas the "average user" has to contend with windows and the crap that comes with it.
But the only people who use Linux are tech-heads that actually want to LEARN anyway. For instance I was tying to get my brother to look at Linux and have a go, but he didn`t seem interested because the fact that he could redirect the output of a command into a text file simply didn`t excite him.
95% of computer users don`t think of a computer as a "computer", like we did back in the 1980`s. These days people see the computer as a "media" device, like a VCR, they use it for web browsing, playing games, looking at digital photos/printing/editing them. With windows you can do all this almost minutes after unpacking your new PC when you buy it.
Can you imagine what would happen if Dell decided to ship their machines with Linux instead of windows? They would go out of business.
I'm rambling on a bit here, but to get back to the original topic, why should Linux fans be trying to convince average users to use something that not only is way too difficult for them, but the probably wouldn`t even be interested in. If you want Microsoft to have a new competitor, the answer is: Design a new OS thats REALLY easy to use, can do everything windows can do, and try and make it better than windows.