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Old 01-27-2006, 05:27 PM   #31
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If you don't like the U.S. leave.(we have the freedom too. Oh wait did I say freedom?)

2. If you make guns illegal only criminals will have guns. Compare the crime rates in Europe and the U.S.

3. Every legal system has problems I think that you can sue for too many things too.

4. I am a Christian and I only decry things that have a profound effect on the freedoms of others. Also this is a 96% Christian country, If you go to a Muslim country you won't expect them to not have any mention of allah in their government. Most people in the U.S. agree.

5. Misguided patriotism based on the work of scientists? where did that come from. If you truly hate this country get your butt out of here or try to do something to change it. Don't complain and then not do anything about it.

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Old 01-27-2006, 05:44 PM   #32
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If you don't like the U.S. leave.(we have the freedom too. Oh wait did I say freedom?)

2. If you make guns illegal only criminals will have guns. Compare the crime rates in Europe and the U.S.

3. Every legal system has problems I think that you can sue for too many things too.

4. I am a Christian and I only decry things that have a profound effect on the freedoms of others. Also this is a 96% Christian country, If you go to a Muslim country you won't expect them to not have any mention of allah in their government. Most people in the U.S. agree.

5. Misguided patriotism based on the work of scientists? where did that come from. If you truly hate this country get your butt out of here or try to do something to change it. Don't complain and then not do anything about it.
Dan, Dont waste your time with some of these people. Go back and look at some older posts by certain people here and you will be amazed at the mentallity. I dont think that person is in the US anyway, or at least I hope not.
The same people who claim to be all for freedom of this and that are the same wackos that want to ban guns and religeon.
 
Old 01-27-2006, 06:44 PM   #33
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If you don't like the U.S. leave.(we have the freedom too. Oh wait did I say freedom?)
I don't live in the U.S. man. I wasn't being offensive though.

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2. If you make guns illegal only criminals will have guns. Compare the crime rates in Europe and the U.S.
This is something that I don't believe. (In which thread must we discuss it?). Anyway, when I was in Portugal and Spain you never see crime related to guns. The weapons used are mostly knives and supposedly infected needles (they were obviouslly junkies).

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4. I am a Christian and I only decry things that have a profound effect on the freedoms of others. Also this is a 96% Christian country, If you go to a Muslim country you won't expect them to not have any mention of allah in their government. Most people in the U.S. agree.
96% christian? In any way, I don't support the dictatorship of majorities over minorities. I too decry things that have effect on individual freedom, and this is why I'm suspicious of christian efforts to invade on privacy of others.

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5. Misguided patriotism based on the work of scientists? where did that come from. If you truly hate this country get your butt out of here or try to do something to change it. Don't complain and then not do anything about it.
Won't comment on it as it doesn't contribute nothing. Where did I get this one? Man, I don't see a link between technology and patriotism. Patriotism that isn't based on cultural facts isn't beautiful. Ask the nazis. What I like about the U.S.:
1- Metallica, Megadeth, Pantera, Slayer. Dylan Thomas, E.A. Poe, H.P. Lovecraft & Walt Whitman. Movies? Clockwork Orange, The shining, many others. But ennumerating them and saying "made in xxx", independently of country of origin, I'm turning them into imported things or commercial products.

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Old 01-28-2006, 11:42 AM   #34
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If you don't like the U.S. leave.(we have the freedom too. Oh wait did I say freedom?)

2. If you make guns illegal only criminals will have guns. Compare the crime rates in Europe and the U.S.

3. Every legal system has problems I think that you can sue for too many things too.

4. I am a Christian and I only decry things that have a profound effect on the freedoms of others. Also this is a 96% Christian country, If you go to a Muslim country you won't expect them to not have any mention of allah in their government. Most people in the U.S. agree.

5. Misguided patriotism based on the work of scientists? where did that come from. If you truly hate this country get your butt out of here or try to do something to change it. Don't complain and then not do anything about it.
Crime rates are a lot higher in the US than Europe.
 
Old 01-28-2006, 11:47 AM   #35
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But this country is not as free as you think. I meet a Mexican a few months ago and he said that their is no freedom in this country. He said you can't drive drunk or pee in public.

Or how is this free. If you want a house you pay 400,000. And from then on your a slave to the banks and the government. Paying high taxes and loans for the rest of your life. While in some European countries when your 20 you have your own house and paid off. And taxes are about 200 dollars a year and not around 5,000 a year like here.

And then after 30 years of working just to payoff your house. You get old and have to pay 1,000 dollars a month for drugs that only cost a few dollars to make. And the taxes double. You will have to sell your house and get a little apartment. Money used from selling the house 1/4 goes to taxes the rest is used to pay for your expensive health care and drugs each month till you die. Working like a slave till you die.
 
Old 01-28-2006, 01:57 PM   #36
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That is crap - if you work hard and save while you are young you will have plenty of money left over when you are old. The only old people I have ever met that didn't have enough money were people that were druggies or hippies when they were young.

You say our nation is incompetent - every government has it's problems but at least we have the backbone to defend ourselves unlike some other countries that let them kill cops and firefighters and then say that they are just "expressing their frustration"


Don't dis on my country and I won't dis on yours

If you don't live here you can't possibly understand the level of freedom we have

God bless the U.S.A. - The greatest nation on earth.

Now can we get back to the original topic?

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Old 01-28-2006, 02:02 PM   #37
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Crime rates are a lot higher in the US than Europe.
Gas prices are a lot lower in the U.S.
 
Old 01-28-2006, 02:08 PM   #38
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[QUOTE=NEC5]Crime rates are a lot higher in the US than Europe.[/
QUOTE]

Thats not true.
 
Old 01-28-2006, 02:12 PM   #39
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I agree and could post hundreds of studies to prove it - but these people just hate the U.S. anyway so it isn't worth trying. If they want to they can do a search on LEGITAMENT studies and post them here.

However, can we please get back to the original topic, there are other forums here about this.

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Why is it that people from countries whose butts we pulled out from under Nazi or communistic rule hate us? Maybe they are ashamed.

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Old 01-28-2006, 03:42 PM   #40
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I remind all the participants about the title of this thread. It's 'game violence vs. tv violence'. If you want another political thread, create a new one or move to an existing one.
 
Old 01-28-2006, 03:53 PM   #41
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God bless the U.S.A. - The greatest nation on earth.
Oh, great. "Deutschland über alles!"

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Why is it that people from countries whose butts we pulled out from under Nazi or communistic rule hate us? Maybe they are ashamed.
I forgot to say pathetic patriotism.
 
Old 01-28-2006, 03:57 PM   #42
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If you don't live here you can't possibly understand the level of freedom we have
What is this freedom that prevents you from visiting Cuba while at the same time the (same) politicians smoke their tobbaco, and prevents americans (with or without some form of terminal cancer) from using pot ?

What is this freedom that can be traded for "security" ?
 
Old 01-31-2006, 01:34 PM   #43
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Americans can go to Cuba if they want too, I don't know where you got that from. I know a lot of people who have gone there. As for pot, having freedom means protecting the freedoms of others. People who smoke pot do crazy things that enfringe on the rights of others.

Trading freedom for security? What's that supposed to mean? We are the most free country on the face of the earth.

God Bless the U.S.A.
 
Old 01-31-2006, 01:41 PM   #44
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Americans can go to Cuba if they want too, I don't know where you got that from. I know a lot of people who have gone there. As for pot, having freedom means protecting the freedoms of others. People who smoke pot do crazy things that enfringe on the rights of others.

Trading freedom for security? What's that supposed to mean? We are the most free country on the face of the earth.

God Bless the U.S.A.
We are not the most free. Thats propaganda
 
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