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Old 01-26-2006, 04:17 PM   #16
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http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/2002s.../CrimeRate.jpg take a look at this image
 
Old 01-26-2006, 04:43 PM   #17
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Everyone has there opinion. I don't think that tv and game violence is a good thing. They can make great movies and games without a lot of violence.
 
Old 01-26-2006, 04:53 PM   #18
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because its easier for them to hit back at games. they think just kids play games and go out and do what they would on a game SAD! people dont understand they need to play the game first before they do anything!
 
Old 01-26-2006, 09:39 PM   #19
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I think that tv and media have some control over the way we act, vote, think, etc. I believe that if we had no violent or liberal left TV and games. We would not have so much violence. There have been many studies like that below


Adolescents who watch more than three hours of TV daily are more likely to engage in aggressive behavior as adults, a new study says.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/...s.tv.violence/

American children watch an average of three to fours hours of television daily. Television can be a powerful influence in developing value systems and shaping behavior. Unfortunately, much of today's television programming is violent. Hundreds of studies of the effects of TV violence on children and teenagers have found that children may:

* become "immune" to the horror of violence
* gradually accept violence as a way to solve problems
* imitate the violence they observe on television; and
* identify with certain characters, victims and/or victimizers

Extensive viewing of television violence by children causes greater aggressiveness. Sometimes, watching a single violent program can increase aggressiveness. Children who view shows in which violence is very realistic, frequently repeated or unpunished, are more likely to imitate what they see. Children with emotional, behavioral, learning or impulse control problems may be more easily influenced by TV violence. The impact of TV violence may be immediately evident in the child's behavior or may surface years later, and young people can even be affected when the family atmosphere shows no tendency toward violence.

http://www.aacap.org/publications/factsfam/violence.htm




In today's society violent acts occur commonly that can be linked to television or

movies. In December of 1993 a young ten year old child after watching an episode of

Beavis and Butthead went into his two year old sisters room and lit her baby crib on fire.

This not only burnt the house down , gave the ten year old kid serious third degree burns,

but also killed the two year old baby by burning to death(8). Also in October of 1993

after watching a movie intitled " The Program " a handful of college kids mimicking a

scene from the movie laid down in the middle of a busy intersection and dodged traffic.

This little sheraid killed two of the kids, gave another two serious injuries which put them

in the critical care unit of the hospital for a month before recovering , and gave one

student a fractured collar bone and multiple fractured ribs(15). Because of these two

incidents and many more television violence has been brought to the attention of the

citizens of the world. It has also grabbed the attention of the United States government.
And in a free country we have the freedom to watch or not watch and to prevent our own children from watching. If some nutjobs are going to mimmick something from a movie who cares, its not the governments job to stop them from acting like morons unless they are hurting someone else, I dont see a problem.
 
Old 01-27-2006, 01:39 PM   #20
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And in a free country we have the freedom to watch or not watch and to prevent our own children from watching. If some nutjobs are going to mimmick something from a movie who cares, its not the governments job to stop them from acting like morons unless they are hurting someone else, I dont see a problem.
But this country is not as free as you think. I meet a Mexican a few months ago and he said that their is no freedom in this country. He said you can't drive drunk or pee in public.

Or how is this free. If you want a house you pay 400,000. And from then on your a slave to the banks and the government. Paying high taxes and loans for the rest of your life. While in some European countries when your 20 you have your own house and paid off. And taxes are about 200 dollars a year and not around 5,000 a year like here.
 
Old 01-27-2006, 03:00 PM   #21
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But this country is not as free as you think. I meet a Mexican a few months ago and he said that their is no freedom in this country. He said you can't drive drunk or pee in public.

Or how is this free. If you want a house you pay 400,000. And from then on your a slave to the banks and the government. Paying high taxes and loans for the rest of your life. While in some European countries when your 20 you have your own house and paid off. And taxes are about 200 dollars a year and not around 5,000 a year like here.


I don't want to be rude, but that sounds like something Stalin would say. Sure you pay a lot of money for stuff, but we have the freedom to say what we want be what we want and do what we want. You say that we can't pee or drink and drive? It seems to me that by doing that you would be taking away someone else's rights. As for taxes in europe that is not true. European countries are so far gone that they are starting to limit the freedom of speech. Would you rather trade the right to say and do what you want for a free house? I wouldn't.

Also, think of how rich the U.S. is. I see fat bums all the time. In the U.S. everyone can have a car, a house, a computer, and all the food they want if they get off their lazy butts and work.

People complain that the government should pay for and give us everything that we want, but they don't realize that by doing so we are heading towards one of two things - communism, or total complacancy and the inablility to better our lives.

Look at the health system in Europe - they have extremely low quality health care compared to the U.S., but you say that the government can do everything better.

A survey run by Gallup Polls recently said that 75% of Upper class people come from the lowest position of society - only 25% of the rich stay rich. Any people like you say that the rich just keep getting richer.

A word of advice:

If you want to be communist - move to China and leave the greatest nation on God's green earth as it is. A free nation with equal opportunity.
 
Old 01-27-2006, 03:15 PM   #22
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I don't want to be rude, but that sounds like something Stalin would say. Sure you pay a lot of money for stuff, but we have the freedom to say what we want be what we want and do what we want. You say that we can't pee or drink and drive? It seems to me that by doing that you would be taking away someone else's rights. As for taxes in europe that is not true. European countries are so far gone that they are starting to limit the freedom of speech. Would you rather trade the right to say and do what you want for a free house? I wouldn't.

Also, think of how rich the U.S. is. I see fat bums all the time. In the U.S. everyone can have a car, a house, a computer, and all the food they want if they get off their lazy butts and work.

People complain that the government should pay for and give us everything that we want, but they don't realize that by doing so we are heading towards one of two things - communism, or total complacancy and the inablility to better our lives.

Look at the health system in Europe - they have extremely low quality health care compared to the U.S., but you say that the government can do everything better.

A survey run by Gallup Polls recently said that 75% of Upper class people come from the lowest position of society - only 25% of the rich stay rich. Any people like you say that the rich just keep getting richer.

A word of advice:

If you want to be communist - move to China and leave the greatest nation on God's green earth as it is. A free nation with equal opportunity.

The US is becoming more communist every day. What do you thing does high taxes are going to. It supports housing, food, and cars for the poor. And then the rest goes to other social programs. 40 years ago taxes were a lot less and the living standard was better. There are fat people because of unhealthy food. There are people that go to other countries for health care because its a lot cheaper.
 
Old 01-27-2006, 03:25 PM   #23
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Cheaper health care doesn't mean better health care.

I am unsure on your postion - do you want the U.S. to cut out personal responsibility and feed everyone or do you think people need to take care of themselves?

I think that the more the government takes care of people unneccessarily(I'm not talking about limited time care and care for the elderly and infirm) The less people will want to work and our country will lose it's position as the most powerful and advanced nation in the world.

Look at Russia: Russia is a perfect example of what happens when the gov. takes over. Everyone could get everything for very cheap- but you couldn't find it anywhere. People starved, were persecuted, and tortured, all in the name of a "more quality existence" - does this make any sense to you?
 
Old 01-27-2006, 03:31 PM   #24
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European countries are so far gone that they are starting to limit the freedom of speech.
True. The ban on discussing the Holocaust is senseless. In France, cryptography is illegal.

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People complain that the government should pay for and give us everything that we want, but they don't realize that by doing so we are heading towards one of two things - communism, or total complacancy and the inablility to better our lives.
So-called "communist" states give you what they think you need, not what you want.

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Look at the health system in Europe - they have extremely low quality health care compared to the U.S., but you say that the government can do everything better.
Not true. Quite the opposite... I don't know about the U.S., though.

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If you want to be communist - move to China
China communist? China is becoming a big totalitarian capitalist (and polluting) state.
 
Old 01-27-2006, 03:40 PM   #25
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So-called "communist" states.
Can you explain this line to me?
Definition of Communism:

A government system where the government has total control over all industry and all aspects of life.

I think that defined the U.S.S.R.

Also, China is still communist in many ways - sure they are changing, but they still persecute Chrisians, and Jews kill whomever they feel like whenever they feel like it, and limit free speech - the 3 most horrible aspects of Communism - persecution, restricting free speech, and government sanctioned murder.


God Bless the U.S.A.
 
Old 01-27-2006, 04:01 PM   #26
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Can you explain this line to me?
Definition of Communism:
Source: http://www.ilstu.edu/class/hist127/terms.html
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An economic theory which stresses that the control of the means of producing economic goods in a society should reside in the hands of those who invest their labor for production. In its ideal form, social classes cease to exist, there is no coercive governmental structures, and everyone lives in abundance without supervision from a ruling class. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels popularized this theory in their 1848 Communist Manifesto.
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A government system where the government has total control over all industry and all aspects of life.
This is the best definition of a so-called communist state.

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Also, China is still communist in many ways - sure they are changing, but they still persecute Chrisians, and Jews kill whomever they feel like whenever they feel like it, and limit free speech - the 3 most horrible aspects of Communism - persecution, restricting free speech, and government sanctioned murder.
To me, in the economic level, there's communism and consumerism. No one is better than the other. No one guarantees true independence of the individual. Consumerist states don't work for the people. They work for the big industry lobbyists. It is these "industrialists" that want freedom to opress workers and pollute.

Why do so many companies have their stuff being done in China?
 
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Looks at the communist media and stores in the US.

They don't want anyone to say Christmas anymore. In communist countries you could not talk about Christmas.
 
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I used to go to ISU class of 2004. What program are you going through?
 
Old 01-27-2006, 04:16 PM   #29
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God Bless the U.S.A.
What I don't like about the U.S:

1- The easeness of any person of being sued for almost anything.

2- Gun's "rights" and the whole violent culture around gansta rap and military ideals based more around weapons than warrior honor.

3- The patent system. These guys from the industry want to patent forms of life too!

4- The health system as an industry. The labelization of every state of consciousness as a disease with a three (sometimes four) lettered word.

5- Christian fundamentalists who decry any single thing that is not their business.

6- Misguided patriotism based on the work of scientists.
 
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I used to go to ISU class of 2004. What program are you going through?
None. It's the site I found out in the web
 
  


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