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jamaso 03-06-2003 05:31 AM

Game porting question , please take part
 
I was looking for a linux version of Geoff Crammond GP(whatvever) and found this .

Of course is great and all but i started thinking why game companies don't port their products to Linux . Linux users money isn't good enough ? If anyone care to explain or talk about it , i certainly be glad to hear. thanks

acid_kewpie 03-06-2003 05:38 AM

no it's not good enough. seeing as an additional few months of development would maybe increase by maybe 1% tops? it's "not economically viable" as that black dude says in Falling Down (top top film). Loki tried to set them selves up as that, and no bugger bought the games... so they went bust

jamaso 03-06-2003 06:26 AM

1% ? really ?I thought they would loose a lot more, but what about performance , is it not true that linux has it better than windows ? this could be a kind of a decoy for potential windows users start to use linux too and then buy linux ported games. What about those game companies that bankrupt (as symergy) they sure could come up with something as a small linux game business , so the development period would be spent with linux alone , and the community could help too, i heard they are the best computing scientists there is . One thing i know is, if the linux community came up with a really good linux game , they'd have the world at their feet. It would be like having a Linux X-box on your computer for those who can't afford it , new linux distros would be created just for gamming . I have only one game installed (GP3) (they cost as much as any linux distro ,even more) so there must be a loophole somewhere for a linux game market. well it's just a thought and a wish , maybe you're right

jamaso 03-06-2003 06:32 AM

this is the correct link :

http://www.simracingworld.com/html/f1gp/articles/linux/

iceman47 03-06-2003 06:54 AM

Winex seems to go the right way imho.
The more people that support winex, the more games we can play.

Silent Bob 03-06-2003 07:17 AM

Loki was very badly mismanaged

LGP are doing Linux porting and seem to have their heads screwed on the right way :)

JesseJames 03-06-2003 09:12 AM

Maybe it is because many programmers that make game's specialise in Windows best languages. The languages are also normally created by the games companies
eg
AGI - This has now been ported to linux (although it is 10 to late)
SCUMM - I think that this has been ported to linux recently but again is no longer used.
AGAST - This is a new language and games are just starting to be made in this language (One such game is here)
etc

I know that these languages are mainly used for adventre games but those are what I like and am interested in. It only seems to be the old languages that are currently being ported and only for older classic games.
The main reason for the games languages being windows based is because of DirectX and until linux has something that works exactually the same then it is unlikely that games will be directly ported to linux.

*Gets ready for flames*

moses 03-06-2003 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iceman47
Winex seems to go the right way imho.
The more people that support winex, the more games we can play.

I can't begin to describe how much I disagree with this statement.
Winex actually makes the problem worse. Games run under
winex only make the problem worse by hiding the number of
Linux gamers from game developers. If the developers don't have
to invest in another platform when it's being done (however
poorly) by a different company, then they won't -- the windows
version of the game is enough, since that's what winex gamers
buy. There will always be compatibility issues that cause the
latest, greatest games not to run under winex. There will always
be games that never run under winex. There will always be
games that run poorly under winex.
Until game developers have a monetary reason to develop for
linux, we will be stuck with second rate "solutions" like winex.
Unfortunately, those "solutions" only make the problem worse by
masking the number of linux gamers by forcing those gamers to
buy the windows version of a game.
What we need are some forward looking companies to develop
for linux, even though they'll lose money in the short term.
It will pay off in the long term since they'll have a few years head
start on dealing with development issues for linux. What we also
need are add-on card manufacturers (video, audio) to write
drivers for linux at the same time as for windows. We get into a
chicken-egg situation because without games, there is little
incentive for drivers to be written, but without drivers, there is
little incentive for games. A couple of companies are starting to
see the light, but it is moving rather slowly (another victim of this
crappy economy and the fear of R&D).

jamaso 03-06-2003 11:07 AM

hey,moses, reading your post really gives the creeps, nice reading tough , again i think that a good linux game(*) would launch all different types of changes around game industry , and for that matter hardware industry.

what's R&D anyways ?

Thorin 03-06-2003 11:33 AM

I think a port of Half-Life to Linux would be the perfect starting point for Linux games. HL has the biggest community of all Multiplayer games and mods that easily rival commercially developed and released games. If HL and the better mods were ported to Linux, I would seriously consider ditching Windoze forever. I would even buy another copy of HL just so I could run it under Linux.

moses 03-06-2003 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jamaso
hey,moses, reading your post really gives the creeps, nice reading tough , again i think that a good linux game(*) would launch all different types of changes around game industry , and for that matter hardware industry.

what's R&D anyways ?

Research and development. Generic term for innovation in various
fields. . .

moses 03-06-2003 01:11 PM

Also, if you want to support games for Linux, check out Tux Games
http://www.tuxgames.com


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