Hello!

Does somebody knows a method for free music download? There was Napster in past; nowdays there are still such programs ?

Do you know a p2p program for music download? Sometimes on irc/undernet/bookz one can find music files, but just for little time... they remain registered in -QuietSilence search-, but the server that offers them there is not still on line.

I did hear that DC++ is good for mouvies, music download. Do you know a Linux client for it? Or another programm...


Thanks for answering me... if you want...

Having said that -- There are legitimate uses for file sharing networks. If you want to use them for that end, I'd suggust you investigate Gnutella and eDonkey.

I do not believe that somebody who seek for free music,video or some free documentation on the Internet is a thief . But maybe this is only my opinion. It is the just duty of the owner to protect his documents, if he considers necessary to.

Thanks for anwering. I have found for Direct Connect too.

Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. It's a fact.

Blaming it on the owner is absolutely preposterous. That's like blaming the man who is mugged for carrying a wallet instead of a strong box ... I didn't really want this to turn into a whole big thing, I was just pointing out that since you asked specifically what programs to use to download music (and I can only assume it's going to be the copyrighted kind) that it's stealing.

If you're going to be downloading all public domain content, then that's another matter

but there is a difference between OWNING something that does not belong to you and BEING IN THE POSSESION of somethign taht does not belong to you.

The unlawful TAKING

taking and copying are two VERY different things.

the original owner is still in possesion of the original item. you just have a copy of it.

Funny, the courts don't think so, and neither do I.

It's exactly the same thing as software. If I write a program and decide to charge for it, there's nothing that legally or morally allows you to be in possession of my work without either a) my giving it to you, or b) your purchase of it.

Let me clarify though -- I don't like the media companies, I don't like the cable TV companies, and I don't like big software companies all for reasons far too lengthy to go into here, but partly because they often catch innocent people in their stupid little power grab dragnets (like the P2P cases happening recently), but that doesn't change the facts.

Let me put this another way ... A CD is what? $0.25 USD? So, if you walk into a store and stuff 4 CDs into your pockets, walk out and toss $1.00 on the counter on your way out, are you stealing? You paid for the media, and the owner still has their copy, all you have is a reproduction ...

Then again, maybe I'm not meant to understand the logic of some people....

music piracy is ok IMO because the prices for cd's are rediculous. when prices come down, there will be less piracy. in a capitalist society where a company has a monopoly over a market you are supposed t oboycott to drive prices down. it makes boycotting a lot easier if you are listening to music while you are doing it

games however are reasonably priced for the most part, as are movies. i can rent any DVD for 99 cents on mondays, so i havent pirated a movie in years. i havent pirated software in months as well, thanks to linux. i ahvent donated any money yet, but i feel i have helped the community.

and really, it is no different than copying someone elses tape that they bought. that was "legal" for years. why all this crap now?

Though the moral and ethical aspects of piracy, copying etc. are very debatable on either side, I have no doubt that when a moderator gets hold of this thread, he/she will close this topic as it's against the rules of LQ to discuss anything that encourages piracy, warez etc.

Sigegv: Many countries do not have a piracy law or enforce patents. So your argument about courts being in agreement with your statement is not entirely true. Therefore the presence of many MP3 sites on the web that allow people to download free music.

Point made and taken.

If you live in a country that accepts the US dollar as currency though, I'd sure be careful. The RIAA and MPAA have shown that they'll spend a fortune if they feel someone is hurting their profits, which is actually kinda ironic if you stop to think about it.

A completition: I am from Romania, and in Romania there have been that law for for several years. But that not means that one can not use DC++, Overnet in many places, without being dangerous.

We enter from a subject of informatics to a subject of law, and I think that this discuttion should stop here. When I made a contract for dial-up, I did not sign anything about soft piracy.

If one continues this discutiion, I will announce a moderator.

Have right at it. It's your thread.

Let us look at what the US Court system has said about File-Sharing. Yep, it's thousands of cases say it's illegal. However there are legal uses. I use WinMX to download songs from CD's I own because it's less time and hassle then ripping and encoding it on my computer.

You can argue the finest detail of whether it's legal or not but the US Court system has prosecuted people for using peer-to-peer networks and that's all that matters.

Bittorrent is good for legal p2p. honeslty it's the only program I've seen that has been used legitmately at all even though the vast majority use it illegally. On an XP platform I like programs like Rhapsody for music (really great program that offers 25 free audio streams a month BTW) and just buy DVDs for video. I haven't figured out linux enough yet but i'm not sure how many legal options there are for it.

I have heard of people making music that is in fact free. To help maybe turn this thread a little, is there a place you can get free legal music?

Hi there

There are lots of places where one can download good
quality, truly free music. Things to look for, if you start to
search are; netlabels, open source audio and the creative common license.
These links provide a lot them;

http://www.archive.org/audio/ hint; netlabel
you can also search for categories like ambient house idm etc. etc.

http://www.thinner.cc/ is a netlabel they make more techdub and
soundscape minimal house etc. check their links also

http://www.kahvi.org/
http://www.textone.org/
http://scene.org/

http://www.phlow.de/netlabels/index.php/Main_Page gives
some info on netlabels and what categories they are into

all in mp3 some in ogg, most used bitrate; 192 kb

and you dont have to use a p2p program to get it, just download it
like normal. Most netlabels have a shop where you can also buy their
songs on cd's or vinyl, if you want to support them. In the about
section they provide info on what kind of license they use.

since this thread is rather old and its title is somewhat controversial,
i wonder if this might spiral of into the dark side of p2p
but i just want to point out it is perfectly possible to get hours of good
music just for free.

enjoy