i think they suck. i used to think "yeeeah, english working class people, the best people in the world, fair, honest, basically good people. but actually, i dont think they are, seems to me the majority are silly children. ive had this feeling for a while now, and i went to the pub last night for a lemonade (which didnt go down well!), anytime i go to the pub, all i hear is working class men telling each other that because they wear a yellow t-shirt, or because they like to talk about other things apart from womens breasts that theyre gay "your a gay boy you are!".."no! u are!", one says to another. they seem to have this preoccupation with homosexuality . also, if you dont work like a dog digging the roads or driving a digger truck for 12 hours a day, its like your not a man. i just dislike these people to be honest they cant be bothered to learn, and they actually have no desire to learn, which to me just does not compute. i used to think it was me that didnt fit in, but actually its them. i remember a guy in the pub not long ago who was going to greece on holiday for a few weeks with one of his m8s, and he looked at me and said "he wants to go to see the ancient buildings! LMAO!", i was like "heh..yeah..what a moron.."

Well I wouldn't look it that way. Maybe they're just living happier lives than you? I mean, for a start, making "real" work does make you feel better than sitting in a hot server room 16 hours a day (unless you happen to get killed in the "real" work), just the same way as doing sports makes you feel better than just drinking beer at home. If your mind doesn't like it, it's another story, but apparently human bodies are meant to move and flex muscles at times (not the way some jerks do at the gym, though).

Gays are another thing then. I bet the preoccupations never vanish before human race becomes extinct. But then again, if you don't have one preoccupation, you have some other. Maybe it's better to have a few happy pub-visiting lads that tell you're gay if you're wearing a yellow t-shirt (you could be) than having those same lads have army uniforms, a swastika, rifles and a bad mood against "the weak".

Hey, but you could tell them to try Windows Vista -- it was supposed to be user-friendly, right? Maybe it'll cool them off..

i dont think they are enjoying their lives, by the stolen glances at their faces across the bari think they hate their lives and how boring they are, but dont have a desire to learn and improve themselves, so they just sit there, drinking beer, talking the same old crap. the problem with the pub visiting lads/nazis thing is that they are one and the same, there may be a few middle class commanders giving the orders, but the vast majority of soldiers are working class men who dont question what theyre doing, they just enjoy giving in to their animal instincts, unlike human beings that actively supress their animal urges (and i see very little of that supression in the pub ) p.s just looked at your sig bOuncer, 'fin' is finland? england is a very different place to most places, its like a phiranha tank over here, they do prey on the weak, its part of the english culture to dominate rather than to help, unfortunatley. another thing is if you dont own a car in england, your looked upon as a second class citizen, EVEN if you choose not to own one, we're pretty stupid too

//working class punch gays inside the toilets ...


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I call Godwin's Law!

//the working class can be as irritating as how we can imagine about them ... and the peasants class can be worser ...

the worst type ... ??

those either from the peasants class or the working class who are rich / educated(in some sense though) just yesterday(always remain at yesterday) ...


so ... no over-idealization of classes or whatever from this side ... thats just being silly and stupid ...


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Oh, the snobbery!!

You have bad eggs from all classes, or even groups of bad eggs. But to claim the entire working class population "sucks" is a little unjust.

I have friends from all classes and they all respect each other, as for my status I'm not quite sure because I have working class part time job and come from a working class background but am studying computer science at uni. Perhaps I know how to choose friends?

Alred: your posts are uncalled for, grow up. Are you aware of the old adage: If you don't have anything useful to say, say nothing.

i disagree, the worst type are the polititions!

if your local pub is full of larger w****ers then go to anothr pub.... prefwerably one that serves real ale and dousent have a happy hour (read get totally hammered on cheap lager/spirits then start a fight hour)

ok , i apologize ... i'm also a working class although i prefer to be a look on as peasant sometime ...


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Was going to write a sarcastic reply to mobilemonkey's post, but I have to go and dig the road up.
--A Working-Class Englishman Who Never Wears A Yellow T-Shirt.
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Aaah, that'll take the council ages to repair. Now I'm off to the pub to take the p**s out of lemonade drinkers.

Remember this Mr. Mobilemonkey: In a democracy, people have the right to live as they see fit. You may not like or understand it, but that doesn't give them any less right to do as they please.

If you don't like it, try going to a different pub.

Moral of story: lazy people shouldn't go to pubs. Stick to the gin joints around your institutions of higher laziness.

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I don't understand why the English think it matters so much what kind of work you do. Visiting a few times, the only bad experience I have had with people was with neds (a word I learned - not really sure what it means). Anyway, I don't think those neds I met did work at all.

Work is just the curse of the drinking class

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/NEDS

I'm yet to understand the connection between the human and the booze. I am a teetotaller.

associating all workers as the working class is the same as associating all peasants as the peasant class ... there is no such order , thats impossible ...

something like not all workers like to punch gays in the toilet ... infact in many cases , we are not seeing any working class at all ...


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