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Old 09-09-2004, 08:01 AM   #16
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Dude, what the heck is this supposed to be??? I live in australia and I think you need to catch up on the facts and history before spurting off rot like this trolling here! I have put your handle on my avoid list, thanks.

Chill out.
Read my reply above, we don't need to make personal statements against others, especially since I've already warned and dealt with him.

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Old 09-09-2004, 08:19 AM   #17
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My appologies, our posts crossed. I think and I had this page open for some time. You will note from my posts on this forum I am only here to help new linux users... But I do tend to speak my mind...
 
Old 09-09-2004, 04:49 PM   #18
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Sorry tricky, I just can't help myself sometimes. I have not tried to make a flame war. The post about australia was a sidenote relating a post another user made.
Back to Engineering. I guess, if you need a degree to be an engineer in America then if you are a criminal in your early years and mess up your college course, you have no chance of doing what you want later on in life unless you drive a taxi for five years to pay for a degree or have rich parents.
I have never seen the need for paper work. Being in my early twenties, I am only doing temp contracts at the moments. If a company is not happy with my work it can fire me. Why do I need to spend a fortune for a peice of paper, when I can learn everything in the field.
I do not know what makes a motherboard tick, but I know when it is faulty and needs replacing. I expect in five years I will be able to build a CPU in my garage and a pentium class motherboard in maybe ten. Why should I slave away for years getting a degree when I can get the same money from the certs I have now.
Someone coming out of uni is not likely to be that knowledgable, because most uni students spend most of their time smoking dope or contemplating life.
Being a non uni young guy with comptia certs, I spend all my awake time learning, does a uni student?
Anyway, my main point, I screwed up my college and uni years, but I do not accept a hirarchy of life where those that did well when they were young should have a step ahead of those that made it later in life. I will get an IT degree when I have time. I just want to wait till I can afford a Lamborgini before I bother with all that.
Tricky, if I am breaking any rules then please explain it to me. I do not see mention of making flame wars in this forums rules. I did not even try to start a flamer, I was just a bit distracted.
 
Old 09-09-2004, 05:38 PM   #19
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Old 09-09-2004, 05:42 PM   #20
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No offense but you write like your 14. Directed at Hades.
 
Old 09-09-2004, 07:49 PM   #21
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I do not know what makes a motherboard tick, but I know when it is faulty and needs replacing. I expect in five years I will be able to build a CPU in my garage and a pentium class motherboard in maybe ten. Why should I slave away for years getting a degree when I can get the same money from the certs I have now.
I'm afraid to inform you that your expectations are unrealistic. Just because you can find out when something is broken doesn't mean that it will lead you to discover how it is built. Does an experienced garage mechanic know how to design a custom V8 engine from scratch? The answer is no.

I don't know what you mean by "I can build a CPU in my garage". A simple CPU (like for a small calculator) almost anyone with half a brain could design. A VLSI CPU like the Pentium or Athlon processors are designed by hundreds of engineers and a single person couldn't hope to design one by themselves if they spent a lifetime attempting to do so. Do you have any knowledge of how embedded electronic circuits are manufactured? Unless you have a multi-million dollar cleaning lab filled with sophisticated equipment in your garage (which would have to be able to fit at least 20 cars when empty), you are dreaming.


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Someone coming out of uni is not likely to be that knowledgable, because most uni students spend most of their time smoking dope or contemplating life. Being a non uni young guy with comptia certs, I spend all my awake time learning, does a uni student?
Not all university students smoke dope and contemplate life, especially not engineering student. And yes I did spend all my awake time learning. I can also assure you that during those 4 years I stayed awake much longer than you.


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Anyway, my main point, I screwed up my college and uni years, but I do not accept a hirarchy of life where those that did well when they were young should have a step ahead of those that made it later in life.
So does that mean you were one of those students that smoked pot and contemplated life when you were in university? What do you mean you can't accept that those who did well when they were young have a step ahead? Of course they have a step ahead! If they didn't, then what would be the reason why anyone would try to do well in school? That's not to say that you can't catch up and surpass those people though, given enough time and effort on your part.



Sorry if I'm adding fuel to the fire here tricky, but I just couldn't let some of these comments pass.

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Old 09-09-2004, 08:07 PM   #22
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Sorry if I'm adding fuel to the fire here tricky, but I just couldn't let some of these comments pass.
Well don't, HadesThunder is on thin ice already. This is only going to provoke him and possibly get him banned. Bad move IMHO and you should have read my other replies and not provoke others who are given warnings. And this goes for all members, don't do this if you see someone that has been publicly warned. If it so much makes you feel you need to post, I rather see you hold back and not post, move on to the next thread.

Regards.

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Old 09-09-2004, 10:33 PM   #23
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In the US at least, it is illegal to use the word "engineer" in your job title unless you are a professionaly certified engineer. (Much the same way that a doctor or lawyer must be certified before they can practice).
That doesn't apply to things like "network engineer," only engineering disciplines in which a certification exists (mechanical, civil, etc.) I think of engineers as those who design or create something, and technicians as those who install/fix/maintain it. But that's not strictly a dictionary def.
 
Old 09-10-2004, 08:26 PM   #24
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I am not provoked, by Roots. His points were valid and I hate to be seen as a loose cannon.
Stack. I really do not care if I write like I am 14 or like I am 70. I just write what I think.
I really can not add much to this thread, except to explain that poor old me probably could produce a pentium class CPU within a garage designed for one car.
Just make micro fibre optic cables and copy an old cyrix or even 386 architecture. Make a few adjustments and you will have a pent class CPU. It will last a few min before it melts and it wont be recognised by the pc but it be a pent class CPU for a min or so. Fibre optics travel data a lot faster than copper. A side note. Stick a fan shaped disc in between two magnetic motors, balance the negatice and positive and you will get a system fan spins round so long as the magnets last.
You could always design a motherboard to support it.
 
Old 09-10-2004, 09:03 PM   #25
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Yep, my positronic optical bioputer has been coming along well too. I have the organic molecules switching state okay, so that handles binary data storage for the registers on a molecule level but I'm still having trouble with the molecule size nand gates due to some oxidization problems. I think the lazer frequency isn't quite right. Data transport has been a killer as well due to the various problems with phase shift and so forth...
 
Old 09-10-2004, 09:10 PM   #26
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So how about network engineers? Could they be considered those that design networks/LANS/WANS? Technicians would be the ones who support/troubleshoot them? I ask about that one specifically cause it's the first one that comes to mind.
 
  


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