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Old 10-07-2014, 08:25 PM   #61
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There are variables that always come into play when trying to eradicate a disease, money is one. At one point we 'almost' got rid of polio, but it has reappeared in parts of South Asia (Pakistan mostly). Sure efforts are made to vaccinate against it, but the variable in that equation is the Pakistani Taliban killing off/threatening health workers. So in that case you're forced to deal with backwards thinking dumbasses (Taliban).
 
Old 10-08-2014, 10:17 AM   #62
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Here's more on the cost:
http://online.wsj.com/articles/world...&mg=reno64-wsj

So yeah, containing it will save money maybe for more than just Africa.
 
Old 10-08-2014, 01:34 PM   #63
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Five airports to toughen Ebola screenings
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...ng-at-airports

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Passengers who arrive from Ebola-ravaged countries will be required to have their temperatures checked and fill out a health questionnaire, an official from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) confirmed to The Hill.

The first airports to implement the new procedures will be Washington Dulles International Airport, John F. Kennedy International Airport, Newark Liberty International Airport, O’Hare International Airport and Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.

The screenings could begin as early as this weekend, starting with John F. Kennedy International in New York.

Those five airports make up 94 percent of all travel from West African countries, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Wednesday.
 
Old 10-12-2014, 05:47 AM   #64
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Consider this:

some islamic terror group sends few guys to the ebola countries, they infect themselves and take flights to eu/usa and actively try to infect subways or some other high value targets.

if i were isis leader i would use those kind of tactics against my enemies. imagine the chaos they could cause with tactics like that.
 
Old 10-12-2014, 08:03 AM   #65
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Consider this:

some islamic terror group sends few guys to the ebola countries, they infect themselves and take flights to eu/usa and actively try to infect subways or some other high value targets.

if i were isis leader i would use those kind of tactics against my enemies. imagine the chaos they could cause with tactics like that.
How about we consider some facts rather than Hollywood style hysteria?

- In West Africa, where Ebola is rampant, each infected person passes the infection along to 2 (two) other people. Not thousands, two.

- Ebola is not very infectious. You need direct contact with bodily fluid in order to get it.

- Ebola is only infectious after symptoms start showing,

So to fulfill your theory, some islamic terror group would have to send feverish, vomiting, bleeding guys into the subway system and have them lick people or rub their sweaty bodies all over their intended victims.

Yeah. That's gonna work REAL well.
 
Old 10-12-2014, 10:03 AM   #66
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Health worker at Dallas hospital tests positive for Ebola
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/late...&spt=rlnl&or=1
 
Old 10-12-2014, 05:20 PM   #67
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Years ago, some workers were starting to dig foundations for a new building on the campus, part of which happens to be across the street from City Cemetery. Unexpectedly, the workers realized they'd just dug into a patch of much softer earth ... a rectangular patch. It looked like a grave, where no graves were thought to be.

There was an immediate "public health alert" response. The site was immediately cordoned off and evacuated; the workers at that particular area were immunized and put under observation; the corners were marked and the area was covered with earth. There were urgent calls to the History Department. Why? Because, nearly a century before, the city had been scourged by the Spanish Flu. There were credible reports of people who'd eaten breakfast that morning who were dead by dinnertime. There are still sections of the graveyards where new burials will never be allowed. Here seemed to be "an unknown graveyard," and there was immediate fear of what that might mean.

Core samples were taken, by workers wearing full bunny suits, and the project was delayed for many weeks while it was determined whether any construction earthwork could be done anywhere in the proposed area. (One possibility was: "the University will never be allowed to expand into that area, period.") Finally, the limits of the burial area were identified and, after also trying to determine if any families had any known relatives that might be buried there, the project was allowed to continue. I don't recall if any remains were found. Nevertheless, all of the "grave earth" was treated as a bio-hazard.

Viruses are serious business. Always have been; always will be. And some of them, like the "flu shot" that they try to sell you every year, actually are "most common, but most deadly."

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Old 10-12-2014, 05:33 PM   #68
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This is why the guy who died in Dallas needs to be cremated. As far as the 'flu shot' is concerned I think it is more of 'piece of mind' to some, which in all cases is false anyways, since there are so many variations to the flu that there is no way the current flu shot would match all of it, plus you get sick anyways so whats the point? (pun not intended).
 
Old 10-12-2014, 09:07 PM   #69
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Health worker at Dallas hospital tests positive for Ebola
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/late...&spt=rlnl&or=1
Shoot, Texas soil is chock full of mysterious things that can kill a person.
One care giver catches Ebola in Dallas and it is National News.

The world and it's inhabitants are a wonderment to behold.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 06:30 AM   #70
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This is why the guy who died in Dallas needs to be cremated. As far as the 'flu shot' is concerned I think it is more of 'piece of mind' to some, which in all cases is false anyways, since there are so many variations to the flu that there is no way the current flu shot would match all of it, plus you get sick anyways so whats the point? (pun not intended).
The body probably will be cremated. Yes, the "flu shot" is largely a racket, because indeed the real problem with the influenza virus is that it does mutate very rapidly. And, as previously noted, some of those variations can be extremely volatile and lethal. "It kills ya dead, and it kills ya quick."
 
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I think the Ebola thing is just media hype. Take for example SARS and Swine Flu, more people die of regular flu every year than those two ever managed.

I have lived in Africa. The conditions people live in can make spreading it easier but considering how many people live there and how many have died it is still a non-event. Just have a look at how many have died of malaria this year.

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Old 10-14-2014, 12:38 AM   #72
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some islamic terror group sends few guys to the ebola countries, they infect themselves and take flights to eu/usa and actively try to infect subways or some other high value targets.

if i were isis leader i would use those kind of tactics against my enemies.
ISIS , unlike Al Qaeda, isn't interested in fighting "the far enemy". Splitting their efforts like this would go against everything they've stood for so far (which is attacking nearby communities and holding the land that they've taken over).

Also: is it really that easy to intentionally get infected, even in "the ebola countries"?

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Old 10-15-2014, 02:56 PM   #73
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Is not funny how the death rate hasn't changed much there over the 'years' but here now that it's "flu-season," Oh-NO!? And, then the experimental miracle cures that run out when they probably have warehouses stocked to sell... wash, cough in shoulder or sleeve of shirt,,, and most importantly stay away from babes. Everything ends.

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Old 10-16-2014, 06:03 PM   #74
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Also, why are there commercials$ for prescription drugs$, isn't it the doctors job to tell you what to take?!
 
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Also, why are there commercials$ for prescription drugs$, isn't it the doctors job to tell you what to take?!
Well, who do you think makes the drugs, funds the studies and research on those same drugs and then the treatment guidelines are based upon those studies. I probably should even mention the number of fake journals they put out solely for the purpose of pushing their drugs. But, I'll never say anything against Big Pharma, not unless I wanna be sleeping with the fishes.

So, my official stance is I love Big Pharma. They're good fellas.

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