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Old 10-10-2009, 10:27 AM   #811
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I just read that powerpoint works well under WINE. Will have to check into that one, or whatever else will run powerpoint files as intended.
 
Old 10-10-2009, 12:11 PM   #812
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I usually use Windows to fix other people mistakes.
 
Old 10-10-2009, 11:25 PM   #813
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....You are right about OpenOffice . . . but, Word, Excel, and Power Point run pretty flawlessly under WINE....
if you know how to make sound work flawlessly in Powerpoint running under WINE, I would greatly appreciate knowing how.
Thanks.
Cheers.

Last edited by cwizardone; 10-11-2009 at 09:32 AM. Reason: Typo.
 
Old 10-10-2009, 11:29 PM   #814
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I don't know the first thing about virtual systems. Figured that if it takes room to run, why not just install it. But, I don't know if that is really how it is
Between VirtualBox and VMware, VIrtualBox is by far easier to install, setup, and run (IMHO).
 
Old 10-11-2009, 09:15 AM   #815
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if you know who to make sound work flawlessly in Powerpoint running under WINE, I would greatly appreciate knowing how.
Thanks.
Cheers.
That is why I keep Windows on a machine.
I will still look at what you mentioned about virtual box and others.
 
Old 10-11-2009, 11:32 AM   #816
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anybody care to play mickeysoft roulette???????
dos 4
dos 5.1
dos 6.0
dos 6.1
windoze 3.0
WFW 3.10
microsoft BOB
NT 3.5
win 2000 (original release)
win ME
Vista

above are listed most of microsoft's "dogs" BOB wasn't really an OS, but a front end for win95 that was designed by a kindergarten teacher (or so it seemed). one problem with BOB was once you loaded BOB there was no way back into the win95 gui
 
Old 10-11-2009, 01:28 PM   #817
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anybody care to play mickeysoft roulette???????
dos 4
dos 5.1
dos 6.0
dos 6.1
windoze 3.0
WFW 3.10
microsoft BOB
NT 3.5
win 2000 (original release)
win ME
Vista

above are listed most of microsoft's "dogs" BOB wasn't really an OS, but a front end for win95 that was designed by a kindergarten teacher (or so it seemed). one problem with BOB was once you loaded BOB there was no way back into the win95 gui
It's done here
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1455700
 
Old 10-11-2009, 07:08 PM   #818
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and more resource-hungry too.

How about Avidemux?
Well tried that, but still not a great alternative to windows video editors. Thanks anyway.
 
Old 10-12-2009, 09:02 AM   #819
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SimCity, and i use IE to check out how webpages look on all browsers.
 
Old 10-12-2009, 09:37 AM   #820
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"best" has a different definition for every user. Most users like windows as thats what they used at first, and most people dont like to try new things are afraid of it. There are many users who started with linux and find windows pretty much confusing.
OK. Let's try and look at this as objectively as possible. Which means we need an objective definition of 'best'. For this context, desktop operating systems, I propose that best mean the OS most able to work with all hardware, to be able to perform any function or duty the user would require, is stable and secure, etc

At the moment, this is simply Windows. I don't like the monoculture anymore than you do, but it is what it is. Linux might be the best OS for individual people, but it is not the best all round.

Personally, I believe it is because there is not enough money going in, and no clear focus. Yes, choice is good, but there must also be some sort of focus. At the moment, Canoncical is the only company doing this, and they have yet to turn a profit.

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OpenOffice is used in many corporate offices, and they are doing their work with it and still have no problem with it.
Yes, they are used. We saw a quick adoption of this, but I honestly wonder how long it will stick. OpenOffice has terrible compatibility, with internal versions, and does a lot of stuff poorly. I have found it to be decent for 'casual' office users, who don't do much more than references, tables and headings. When things get more complex, it becomes useless.

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Sound was never a mess for me, since the good old days.
Sound actually seemed better in the good old days. These days, there is OSS v3 and 4, ALSA and Pulseaudio. Pulseaudio still some problems in some implementations. Just because you can manage to get decent sound on your desktop, does not mean it is not a mess.

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Interesting . . . sound is a mess? I have not experienced significant sound problems in Linux since Slackware 3.2. Maybe it's just that I always run Creative sound cards.
Sound being a mess is not affected by individual users getting it to work fine. There is no clear architecture or compatibility or..anything. It is getting there...

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You are right about OpenOffice . . . but, Word, Excel, and Power Point run pretty flawlessly under WINE. The rest of Office is pretty much useless no matter what platform you run it on.
I think people who need to use Visio or Outlook may disagree. I also think it is not the best solution to run Office under WINE.

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I appreciate your point of view, but I'd wager that my Slackware desktop is more functional and better looking than any Windows desktop.
For you, sure. For most people, that simply isn't the case. Windows can simply do so much more. The reasons for this may suck, but it is the reality.

]quote]Even if you cannot accept this, I'd still contend that Mac OS X is a better desktop than Windows XP, Vista, or 7 . . . Heck, Mac OS 8 was a better desktop than XP, Vista, or 7. Therefore, Windows is not the best desktop OS.[/QUOTE]

Well, it is. It certainly is not as subjective as you consider it to be. What did Mac OS 8 have over modern versions of windows?


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Unfortunately kino is nowhere as good as the video editing apps available in windows. Quite sad actually, one of the reasons I have to keep logging into XP. Tried win7 but that takes more space so came back to XP.
There is not a single decent OSS video editing tool available.
 
Old 10-12-2009, 11:02 AM   #821
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Internet Explorer is a pain...I love Firefox esp because of adblock

IE is a disaster/pain and hotmail has gone to pot

I have to use IE to make sure my web pages work on all browsers.

hotmail produces spurious results

I LOVE adblock with easylist.

One need not delete any ads...they are already set up for delete

think of the money the adblock people could make if they developed an adblock for EACH/ALL browsers

flashing banner ads drive me nuts

I remember a yahoo page with a fat woman ads filling 1/3 of the screen
 
Old 10-12-2009, 11:28 AM   #822
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for a while Windows-Norton internet security IS2009 was going to pot

but it has recovered. It had been outsourced to India.

They had problems documented all over the www

but it now catches intrusion attempts.

Webroot products would snatch all the CPU and cust service was at a loss.

Both are usually free after rebate at Fry's Electronics or other places.
 
Old 10-12-2009, 11:35 AM   #823
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OK. Let's try and look at this as objectively as possible. Which means we need an objective definition of 'best'. For this context, desktop operating systems, I propose that best mean the OS most able to work with all hardware, to be able to perform any function or duty the user would require, is stable and secure, etc....
That most certainly would NOT be windows vista, especially in regard to hardware and, to a lesser extend, security.
 
Old 10-12-2009, 12:46 PM   #824
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I'm in Game emulation. Do development in Slack, play my games under wine, etc. Windows? Virtual PC setup for making sure servers compile on Windows as well as on Linux, oh and Yahoo Messenger for SMS messaging with the girlie.
 
Old 10-12-2009, 01:07 PM   #825
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That most certainly would NOT be windows vista, especially in regard to hardware and, to a lesser extend, security.
Yes, it would be.

Vista was mostly undeserving of the rep that Vista got, and at this point in time, it is a perfectly fine operating system. Most of the problems were due to terrible drivers, which while Microsoft should have cooridinated things better, is not entirely Microsofts fault.
 
  


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