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Old 04-08-2016, 04:43 PM   #16
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Windows must be very inefficient compared to Windows.

Dl speeds are at LEAST 1/4 of what I get in Linux.

I see posts from Windows users complaining about so many things, yet they make no effort to try Linux.

The learning curve for Linux is not as steep as Windows.

And Windows users spend 25% of their time trying to fix problems or find work-arounds to Window's sneakiness. :-)

As soon as Frontier gets setup, I will downgrade my DSL and save $10 - 15 per month.

Off topic:

Today I got an auto insurance quote $100 less than what I currently pay.
 
Old 04-08-2016, 04:43 PM   #17
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Ah, gotcha. I got notified, so far TV and business internet haven't had any hiccups from the transition. I heard there were some fios outages in southern cal but luckily not me.

My set top box started saying Frontier rather than Verizon on April 1
There are places where people are completely out of service. I have noticed now that I don't have dialtone, but I haven't checked today. My TV still shows Verizon.

As far as Business customers go, it can be potentially worse for them if they have static ips, because per Frontier they WILL be assigned new ips. So, if any businesses have servers/etc, they will have fun, redoing all their stuff.
 
Old 04-08-2016, 09:05 PM   #18
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Something is not right. Windows and Linux on a system that is capable of running them would result in nearly identical speeds.

As long as I've played with dsl test sites, their results were generally inline with what downloads will be, in linux, windows, qnx, solaris, bsd or menuetos or BeOS or whatever.

The way they report may have some people confused. Bits and Bytes and some overhead need to be understood.
 
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As far as Business customers go, it can be potentially worse for them if they have static ips, because per Frontier they WILL be assigned new ips. So, if any businesses have servers/etc, they will have fun, redoing all their stuff.
gaahhh, I haven't heard that static IP's will be re-assigned. I have 5 fixed IP's and numerous external places relying on the ip's, so if Frontier changes my IP's I'll be one of those with lots of work to do.


I guess I'll wait & see what happens before going bonkers
 
Old 04-08-2016, 09:50 PM   #20
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gaahhh, I haven't heard that static IP's will be re-assigned. I have 5 fixed IP's and numerous external places relying on the ip's, so if Frontier changes my IP's I'll be one of those with lots of work to do.


I guess I'll wait & see what happens before going bonkers
Just be ready because it is coming. I just don't know if you will get a letter or a phone call with your new ips. I would call Frontier and see if you can get that info ahead of time. As far as I know I still have a Verizon ip, but it no longer resolves to verizon though, and traceroutes are going through Frontier. Since I have only a residential account, I don't really have to worry about that, I still have to see if I have dialtone when I get the chance, other than that things are working ok.

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Frontier Business - 1.800.921.8102

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Old 04-09-2016, 10:14 AM   #21
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Something is not right. Windows and Linux on a system that is capable of running them would result in nearly identical speeds.

As long as I've played with dsl test sites, their results were generally inline with what downloads will be, in linux, windows, qnx, solaris, bsd or menuetos or BeOS or whatever.

The way they report may have some people confused. Bits and Bytes and some overhead need to be understood.
I was talking about the speed of downloading files not the speed test.

The speed test results are nearly identical.
 
Old 04-09-2016, 10:15 AM   #22
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How do I find the ip address of my provider ?
 
Old 04-09-2016, 11:45 AM   #23
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How do I find the ip address of my provider ?
Either log into your router if you have one, or go to a website that can show you your ip address.
 
Old 04-09-2016, 12:06 PM   #24
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Thanks.
 
Old 04-09-2016, 07:43 PM   #25
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fwiw, I use both windows and linux extensively, and on my fios connection I don't see any noticeable differences when downloading files in either OS, such as multi-gb OS iso files, etc.
 
Old 04-09-2016, 07:54 PM   #26
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If you are using win8 or 10, there should not be any issues. 7, and Vista have a send/receive buffer issue and a lot of fios customers call tech support because of slow upload or downloads or both and it turns out send/receive buffer sizes are incorrect on their end. 255KB is the preferred value, 8 and 10 finally did something right and fixing that bug, but yea Linux and other OS do not really have that issue.
 
Old 04-11-2016, 09:43 PM   #27
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On Netflix, the speed is around 2.8 Mb/sec.

Don't know if that is dl speed or playback speed.
 
Old 04-14-2016, 07:43 PM   #28
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I've actually been using a free dial up ISP up until about a week ago. I DL'ed all my Linux ISO's at school (they have gigabit LAN). But now we have a 4g hotspot w/ 16gb a month. A lot better, but I'd rather have DSL since its unlimited and if thats the case then speeds arent an issue (I could leave my torrents downloading while at school, overnight, etc).

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Also, our phone line is POTS and we are on a digital loop carrier so we could only get 28.8-36k dial up speeds. And when I did a speed test on my hotspot, it says DL speed is 7mbps but I usually only get 900kbps when downloading torrents. Bittorrent speeds can obviously be influenced by other factors too, though such as # of seeds/peers and your ISP sometimes throttling bittorrent trafic. Knock on wood verizon has not done that yet though.

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Old 04-14-2016, 08:40 PM   #29
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I've actually been using a free dial up ISP up until about a week ago. I DL'ed all my Linux ISO's at school (they have gigabit LAN). But now we have a 4g hotspot w/ 16gb a month. A lot better, but I'd rather have DSL since its unlimited and if thats the case then speeds arent an issue (I could leave my torrents downloading while at school, overnight, etc).

EDIT:
Also, our phone line is POTS and we are on a digital loop carrier so we could only get 28.8-36k dial up speeds. And when I did a speed test on my hotspot, it says DL speed is 7mbps but I usually only get 900kbps when downloading torrents. Bittorrent speeds can obviously be influenced by other factors too, though such as # of seeds/peers and your ISP sometimes throttling bittorrent trafic. Knock on wood verizon has not done that yet though.
Ouch, I haven't been on dialup since 2001.... I know in your case it was just not possible at the time to get a better connection, but yea there are those in the States that still for some odd reason still cling to dialup, AND AOL.. Hell those would would get a broadband connection for some inexplicable reason would also still be paying for an AOL connection, and then call us when 'the internet would stop working', when it would just be AOL and not the actual broadband connection.

I'm spoiled, and can't imagine not being on fiber (been on it for years) but again if I had to go back to copper I would find a way to front the money for a T-3, plus there is a CO less than 1km away.
 
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Only downloading just a segment, not doing multiple segment downloads:
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I am pretty much paying for 25mbps/25mbps (~30mbps because I have video services, so reserve bandwidth is needed for certain video features, such as the guide system, video on demand and such), so I actually pull more than my allotted bandwidth, ~3 Megabytes per sec, on a crazy day 4-5MB/s bursts but during 'peak hours' I don't notice or have any slowdowns, because fiber FTW .

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